16-09-2022 02:33 PM - edited 16-09-2022 02:36 PM
on 16-09-2022 11:11 PM
@not.the.kingswood,
It has been quite a while since eBay owned PayPal (2015, to be exact).
Even when eBay owned PayPal, buyers could not open both an eBay case and a PayPal case for a refund. It was and is explictly outlined in its policies, that this was not permitted.
In the current policy for eBay's Money Back Guarantee, it is stated several times. It's even described unambiguously as abusive buyer behaviour. I'll rubricate the instances in the quoted material below:
Even if a transaction is eligible for eBay Money Back Guarantee, buyers can lose protection if they voluntarily close a request or case, open duplicate claims using other resolution methods, or engage in fraudulent or abusive buying behaviour.
A buyer may not seek resolution for the same transaction under more than one buyer protection program. eBay may close a buyer's eBay Money Back Guarantee case if the buyer files a chargeback or buyer protection claim for the same transaction with their payment provider (such as a credit card issuer or payment service provider), regardless of whether the chargeback or buyer protection claim is for the full or partial amount of the transaction.
If a seller loses a chargeback, they may be eligible for payment dispute seller protections.
Buyers will not be covered by eBay Money Back Guarantee if they make fraudulent claims or engage in activity as described in the Abusive buyer policy. This includes, but is not limited to:
In addition to the consequences described in the User Agreement, we reserve the right to indefinitely suspend an individual's coverage under eBay Money Back Guarantee and impose any other sanctions we may deem necessary including issuing warnings, blocking a buyer's ability to request returns or refunds on eBay and account suspension.
In other words, you must never open another case through some other means for the same transaction. By opening a PayPal casewhen you'd already opened an eBay case/refund request, your easiest resolution method is now closed. Permanently. eBay are highly unlikely to reopen it; they are more likely to put you on their radar so that if something like this occurs again (or anything which eBay deem to be abusive buyer behaviour), your ability to open a Money Back Guarantee case in the future may be limited.
What you should have done, of course, is open an eBay request for refund on the basis of INR (Item Not Received) once the EDD (latest Estimated Deliveery Date) had passed, and let that play out. If the seller hadn't voluntarily refunded you after 3 days (that is, 3 days after your opening the request), you could have asked ebay to step in, which would have meant a refund for you and a spanking for the seller.
But the PayPal request should be successful. Just let it take its time. Make sure you check the status of the dispute/case within PayPal; make sure you don't let any deadlines float past; make sure you don't close it until everything is resolved.
on 17-09-2022 12:45 AM
To keep a long story short……
you will get a refund via PayPal once the ETA has passed. PayPal will have knowledge of this through the transaction.
You won’t have to do anything. Don’t close the case, but keep an eye on it, in case you need to respond to anything to do with it.
** Sellers don’t have to go ahead with the sale. Even after you’ve paid. At least your seller msg you and let you know why they cancelled.
on 17-09-2022 08:26 AM
@not.the.kingswood wrote:Not to worry padi, it was the 'tone' of the response.
The ' tone ' of the response. LOL
Telling the facts - and asking you to be patient is ' belittling '.
Oh brother.
on 17-09-2022 10:21 AM
I couldn't work out which "response" they were talking about Dom........😂
on 17-09-2022 10:24 AM
Thank you for your kind response.
on 17-09-2022 10:32 AM
I came here as a buyer with a genuine post. I didn’t expect to be ambushed like I’m a criminal.
on 17-09-2022 10:58 AM
@not.the.kingswood wrote:I came here as a buyer with a genuine post. I didn’t expect to be ambushed like I’m a criminal.
Good - because you weren't.
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on 18-09-2022 07:46 PM
I'd say as long as you keep the paypal dispute open and keep an eye on it, there is no reason why you shouldn't get a full refund. The seller might not even respond and they certainly can't provide a tracking number, so you should not have a problem winning.
The only reason I know anything much about opening claims is because of what I have read on these boards. I had no idea in the past that a person should open an ebay claim first and if that fails, then they should move on to a paypal claim.
I think it is possible to be on ebay for years and only have a vague idea of some areas because they have never applied to any previous transactions.
on 18-09-2022 09:10 PM
Thank you for helping others to comprehend what happened to me.
I had no idea that I couldn’t have a case on both platforms until I opened them. I never had the need to seek compensation, ever.
As the seller won’t be able to supply a tracking number I have faith that PayPal will refund me.