on 28-06-2013 12:21 PM
I have inherited a beautiful photograph of my grandmother, which is on milk glass - believe it to be what they call an opalotype.
Does anyone know how this should be framed (behind glass for protection etc?) and of anyone who can do this,
Would really appreciate any assistance with this.
on 28-06-2013 06:31 PM
i had a bit of a read, and i think its a fairly specialised question that needs as good an answer. someone like Artlab in SA (have a web page) is who you really need to ask, it depends which state you live in as to who you could get a good answer from. 🙂
on 28-06-2013 07:40 PM
Thanks for that - I will have a look at their web page. I am in NSW.
on 29-06-2013 12:43 AM
I have a couple of family ones. (Not in this house or I would photograph for you.) The ones I have are just head and shoulders and are behind glass, with an oval filet. If they were the full size of the frame they were often without glass. You really need an old frame with some depth to show them off properly - often you can buy these these cheaply at real-life auctions. I have added 2 photos of a couple of examples I sold some years ago - they can be very attractive. In my opinion the 2nd one of the lady would have looked better with an oval filet around. They are of course extremely fragile. And so often did not survive.
on 29-06-2013 01:06 AM
topic came up a few years ago, about these (diffo. forum).
is the photo on the back of a single sheet of milk glass, or is it sandwiched between two sheets of glass
yeh, siddie, second frame's not too hot. lol
on 29-06-2013 01:42 AM
read on a site, that the most common cause of breakage occurs when the support frame is removed, lookin' to be a job for a professional, rosie. B-)
on 29-06-2013 10:58 AM
Those photos are beautiful siddieswans.
I will take a photo of mine and put it up shortly. I have to go out in a minute
eloi it is on a single sheet of glass as far as I can tell - matt on the front and shiny on the back
on 29-06-2013 05:38 PM
Actually the second frame would have been lovely once - covered in red plush velvet, but battered by the years. They are just a single sheet of milk glass, and are VERY fragile. I am sure breakage occurs in re-framing, probably from someone leaning on them, or putting a nail in the wrong place. If it were mine and the frame is OK, I would leave well enough alone. The ones I have re-framed, I put behind glass, using a mat to go between the glass and the opalotype, - I used the wrong term in my previous answer. I have attached some closer pics which show the images outside of the frames - I think they are quite lovely. The close-up portrait has a lot more hand embellishing, as my family portraits have. I think it would look much better with an oval mat. As you can see, the original plush frame had a gold fillet. The young girl just looks to be a straight studio portrait. You can google lots of info on the process; my photography research books tell me it was most popular in Australia 1880-1900.
on 29-06-2013 06:48 PM
i like the Frame myself. i've always liked the look.
on 30-06-2013 01:46 AM
I'm a great believer in original frames myself. An inappropriate frame can really devalue an old work IMO. Unless it's absolutely awful we try to refurbish; if it has to be replaced, we do so with something similar. We have boxes of old frames (and glass and mats) that we have bought very cheaply at auction; having everything professionally re-framed can be very expensive. Of course if it is something really valuable, or something of great sentimental value (which is of course the same thing), then it can be money well spent. In those cases, an expert is definitely best.