38.

[i-need-a-martini]

That's the number of women murdered this year by their partners.

Yes, another woman was murdered by her partner today.

That is the 4th woman this week.

it averages out at 2 women killed every week.

We can talk until we are blue in the face about what a threat terrorism is. But terrorism pales in comparison to this.

And, as usual, todays deaths barely rates a mention in the newspapers. And, as usual, our politicians couldn't care less.

[rabbitearbandicoot]

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@gleee58 wrote:

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

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@gleee58 wrote:

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

see kilroy! I warned you.

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You said "abuse would be forthcoming".  Where is the abuse?

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there's still time.

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Why can't you get involved in the discussion instead of just throwing in inflammatory remarks?

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As I recall, the last time I involved myself in a discussion on this topic, I was set upon from all directions - thus my comments above.

[gleee58]

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@*pepe wrote:

i think kilroy has raised a relevant point - men often feel like they get a raw deal in the family court, the rulings need to become fairer to men but still keep the child's best interests in mind.

I'm willing to bet a few deaths have come about due to the father snapping because he has lost his kids.

Every aspect needs to be identified and fixed.

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Perhaps the snapping is the reason why he was considered unsuitable to have custody of the children. 

The days of the mother getting full custody are long gone.  Most families have joint custody arrangements after they split up and most don't have extreme issues after the split.  

That was not an accurate assessment of the QandA episode.  Natasha S-D did not say it didn't happen to men, nor did she laugh it off as nothing.  She said it needed to be dealt with separately.  

[raptor_rebooted]

 Yes, we do need to fix both issues but why can't we discuss the issue of dead women without downplaying it and saying it's jsut as bad for men?

no one is downplaying it.

men are usually excluded when discussing 

domestic violence.   they need to be included -

that is why they are being mentioned.

[the_great_she_elephant]

The vast majority of dangerous, abusive and violent behavior that occurs in the privacy of people's homes is committed by men against women.  The most recent information on violence in Australia comes from the Australian Bureau of Statistics, Personal Safety Survey (national survey of 16,400 adults in Australian aged 18 years and over) conducted in 2005. The first issue of this survey was conducted in 1996. The 2005 survey found:

• Just under half a million Australian women reported that they had experienced physical or sexual violence or sexual assault in the past 12 months.

• More than a million women had experienced physical or sexual assault by their male current or ex-partner since the age of 15 (some women may be counted twice if they experienced both physical and sexual assault). 

• 37.8% of women who experienced physical assault in the 12 months before the survey said the perpetrator was a current or previous male partner and 34.4% said the perpetrator was a male family member or friend.  Most incidences of physical assault against women in the 12 months prior to 2005 were committed in a home (64.1%).

• 33.3% of women had experienced physical violence since the age of 15.

• 19.1% of women had experienced sexual violence since the age of 15.

• 12.4% of women had been sexually abused before the age of 15, compared with 4.5% of men, between 1996 and 2005. There was an increase in the reporting of sexual assault to police from 14.9% to 18.9% between 1996 and 2005 and there was an increase in the reporting of physical violence to police from 18.5% to 36%.

• 64% of women who experienced physical assault and 81.1% of women who experienced sexual assault still did not report it to police.  The proportion of women aged between 18 and 34 who reported experiencing physical violence has decreased but the proportion of women who reported experiencing physical violence after 45 increased over the same period.  The percentage of women who reported that their children had witnessed partner-related violence either from a current or ex-partner was lower than in 1996.

• The majority of violence against men is committed by other men. Of men who reported that they had experienced physical violence in the 12 months before the survey, 73.7% said that the perpetrator was a male.

           Source: Department of Families, Housing and Community Affairs Fact Sheet 2 Women's Safety.

 http://community.ebay.com.au/t5/forums/replypage/board-id/2500000007/message-id/509350

 

Help us to provide more support and assistance to women and children in need.

[gleee58]

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

 Yes, we do need to fix both issues but why can't we discuss the issue of dead women without downplaying it and saying it's jsut as bad for men?

no one is downplaying it.

men are usually excluded when discussing 

domestic violence.   they need to be included -

that is why they are being mentioned.

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The thread is about the dead women count though not about domestic violence in general.  Why can't we discuss dead women without the constant men cop it worse argument and the abuse accusations?

[raptor_rebooted]

obviously because some feel it is an

equally important issue. 

re the abuse accusation - obviously because

it occurs on regular basis

[i-need-a-martini]

I find it interesting that so many of you are not willing to talk about the topic of the thread.

Instead the thread is full of smarmy comments about statitsics, deflections using other topics, or sentiments that sound a bit like excuses to not discuss the issue at hand.

Yes, there is an issue with male suicide whether related to courts (unsubstantiated) or not.

Yes, men are also the subject of violence by their partners but of course nowhere near to the same degree and murder is neglibible.

But it would be good to actually deliberate the reasons why so many women are murdered. Or consider why the issue of so many murders are marginalised in this country. Or discuss what could be done by individuals and government. Etc. 

[gleee58]

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

I find it interesting that so many of you are not willing to talk about the topic of the thread.

Instead the thread is full of smarmy comments about statitsics, deflections using other topics, or sentiments that sound a bit like excuses to not discuss the issue at hand.

Yes, there is an issue with male suicide whether related to courts (unsubstantiated) or not.

Yes, men are also the subject of violence by their partners but of course nowhere near to the same degree and murder is neglibible.

But it would be good to actually deliberate the reasons why so many women are murdered. Or consider why the issue of so many murders are marginalised in this country. Or discuss what could be done by individuals and government. Etc. 

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Yes, it is interesting and yes, it would be good to have a discussion about the murdered women without the random accusations of abuse and the deflections.

[kilroy_is_here]

So what your saying is bugger off and let us have our male bashing thread back

[gleee58]

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@kilroy_is_here wrote:
So what your saying is bugger off and let us have our male bashing thread back

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No, actually it's a thread about dead women not about bashing males.  Is it that hard to differentiate?