$500mill to stop IS. $18mill to stop Ebola.

Personnel we deployed to to fight I.S.? 

 

600.

 

Personnel we deployed to fight Ebola?

 

Zero.

 

 

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@polksaladallie wrote:

@muppet_detector wrote:

so doesn't it make sense not to expose anyone to those circumstances?

 

Send people over, when they get infected, leave them there to die, or bring them home for treatment and to be with their families etc, but risk putting the lives of others into danger and laying out the welcome mat for the disease to come to Australia?

 

People may have volunteered to go, but have they volunteered to stay and die?


You need to read up about this virus and its treatment.

 

When they return, they are isolated for 21 days, and if they do not develop a fever, they will be OK.  They are infectious only when a fever begins, and after of course.

 

Every city has treatment centres ready to accommodate anyone who presents with this virus.


Just reading this thread, it seems that that is working out so well for us so far....

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Not only Australian personnel sent there by the Govt that could contract ebola virus and carry it back here.


ok, so the 30hrs would apply

to them too. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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@muppet_detector wrote:

Hold on, isn't the concern the evacuation for those already sick? already showing the symptoms?


yep

 

 

 

 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_virus_disease

 

it says here

 

 

Death, if it occurs, is typically six to sixteen days after symptoms appear and is often due to low blood pressure from fluid loss.[2]

 

 

 

 

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so as long as volunteers were tested daily , they should be able to make it back here for treatment if they got sick

 

despite a 30 hour plane trip

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Yes, that is a concern. Doesn't mean a volunteer couldn't come back to Aust with ebola virus. Will TA do something then.. when it hits our shores?

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

@am*3 wrote:

Not only Australian personnel sent there by the Govt that could contract ebola virus and carry it back here.


ok, so the 30hrs would apply

to them too. 

 

 

 


No my point is it takes 2 days to 21 days till the symptoms show. A person who has contracted the virus, may be on the plane without any signs of sickness...they make it back to Australia without feeling ill... then we end up with a person in Aust with ebola virus.

 

 

It is irrelvant whether the person volunteers themselves or is sent there by the Govt.. if they have ebola virus, and they symptoms show  after they arrive in Australia.

 

That 30 hour flight excuse is rubbish, imo.

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Australia has both a smaller population and economy than China yet we have contributed more money than they have, the Australian government has allowed the importation of Ebola into Australia for our scientists to help with the global efforts to find a treatment and a vacine
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@debra9275 wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_virus_disease

 

it says here

 

 

Death, if it occurs, is typically six to sixteen days after symptoms appear and is often due to low blood pressure from fluid loss.[2]

 

 

 

 


Health Minister Peter Dutton said an infected person would not survive the 30-hour flight to Australia if they were to contract the virus in West Africa. Government officials said it could take up to a week to evacuate an infected person to Australia.



 
why so long?
 
 
 

The US Ambassador to Australia, John Berry, said his country was working urgently to devise a system, through the WHO, to provide evacuation and treatment options for international workers who became infected with Ebola.

Britain, meanwhile, is preparing to deploy a naval hospital ship to Sierra Leone and is working with the US and France to construct facilities in West Africa to treat international personnel.



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Not only Australian personnel sent there by the Govt that could contract ebola virus and carry it back here.

 

 

The QLD returning volunteer developed a fever after she got home and reported herself to the authorities.


One of my friends is a GP, he said that they now get so many enquiries from people worried that they have either come into contact with the virus here, or that whatever sniffle they have is a sign they have ebola.

 

and it isn't enough for those ringing to just talk to the nurse or receptionist, they want to hear it from "the doctor" and as he said, he will not make a diagnosis over the phone and as such can do no more than encourage them to come in for a consultation. He said he has bnot had one case where he has suspected any possibility of ebola or any other infectious disease other than usual garden variety viruses etc, so has not seen reason to alert authorities from phone conversations (or any who have come into the practice.)

 

He said the irony of it all was, that many people come into his office and the local hospital with the thought that they may have ebola, but come in without any concern for if or how they may be spreding the virus if they do have it.

 

One of his patients was a pregnant woman who had inhaled the fumes of raw sewerage following a burst pipe - she was concerned about having ebola.

 

Imagine how much this will increase once we have reported people returning from infected areas (whether they are well or not). People are already alarmed.

 

The only winners here are the doctors whose volume of patients increase whilst those requiring medical attention incur prolonged waiting times.

 

It's not the direct cost or possible casualties which are the sole concern. It is also the indirect costs that fear creates.

 

Every time a person goes to a GP or a hospital, whether it is founded or not, it costs money.

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