A lot of people haven't got a job

[donnashuggy]

And that is a fact.

[debra9275]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-12/unemployment-data-january-abs-jobs/6088070

Unemployment surges to 6.4 per cent, its highest level since August 2002, with 12,200 jobs estimated to have been lost in January.

The Bureau of Statistics estimates that the jobless rate jumped from 6.1 per cent in December to 6.4 per cent in January.

The main culprit was a 28,100-strong decline in full-time jobs, while there were estimated to be 15,900 more part-time workers than the previous month.

that's right Donna, the figures are out today for Jan.

do they base these unemployment figures purely on the amount of people applying for benefits??? because I know a few who are out of work atm but would not apply for help, so the real figure is propbably higher

[donnashuggy]

I find this guy worth following and this is what he has posted:

Stephen Koukoulas ‏@TheKouk 2m2 minutes ago

In human terms, the number of people unemployed is 795,200, the most since 1994. Of course economy is now bigger, but still a lot of people

[softail-joanie]

I would file this topic under "duh" meaning that its common knowladge the economy is bad, and where good jobs used to out number people, now people outnumber good jobs. Supply and demand, if 200 people apply for 12 openings, lets say 155 of those people would make really great employees, then it all boils down to who will do the job for the least amount in pay and benifits. that's where the job becomes not such a good job, but a **bleep** job.

ive worked hard most of my life

without much to show and not much in sight

the headaches come often the rewards are few

i'm getting weaker not stronger don't know what to do

good jobs have good people who work in sleet snow and rain

and their line of replacments are as long as my pain

[donnashuggy]

Stephen Koukoulas ‏@TheKouk 1h1 hour ago

Joe Hockey slags and bags Wayne Swan and Chris Bowen, but neither presided over a 6.0% unemployment rate, let alone 6.4%

[donnashuggy]

Jobs and the Labour force

When Mr Abbott won the election, using September 2013 labour force data as a base, total employment was 11.4751 million people. The latest data for December 2014 has employment at 11.6794 million. Level of employment is up 204,300. Looks good at face value. But during this time, the working age population has increased from 18.7801 million to 19.2099 million people, a rise of 439,800. Here immigration and natural population increase are the drivers of this increase.

Of the rise in the working age population, only 46.5 per cent have gotten a job. This is a shortfall of approximately 15 per cent or 65,000 people had the usual pace of job creation been maintained. Not so good when you think about that fact.

The number of people unemployed when Mr Abbott won office was 695,700. In December 2014, it was 759,200, a rise of 63,500 people. This has meant the unemployment rate has gone from 5.7 per cent to 6.1 per cent while Mr Abbott has been Prime Minister. This is not quite as good as the line about the pace of job creation that is often bandied about by both side of politics.

These are the facts. Use them and don't let politicians get away with making things up.

[***super_nova***]

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@softail-joanie wrote:

I would file this topic under "duh" meaning that its common knowladge the economy is bad,

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What exactly do you know about Australian economy?  NOTHING.  USA is only now slowly getting over the GFC, while we had continuing, albeit small, growth and low unemployment through those years.  The USA was hit hard by the GFC, but not nearly hard enough considering that your lack of regulation of the banking and financial sector caused most of the mess. 

[watta*drama*queen]

The number of posts and the hours spent on these boards by some suggest that they don't want a job either !

Perhaps they see posting as being gainfully employed

[donnashuggy]

I'm working and for myself.

[2106greencat]

and I may well be joining those statistics very soon...........

a scary prospect at my age, beleive me!

Of course if I break my lease (costing money) to move to a city (costing money) to get another job (no guarantees of course) all should be well when I go to fill out the dreaded forms at the dreaded Centrelink.

Not to worry, I am sure I can survive on the $658.40 each fortnight that I will receive (after I have spent all my savings, of course).

Given my rent is $520.00 a fortnight,  and power is on average $40 a fortnight, medication $12.00 a fortnight, I will be left with $86.40 a fortnight.

I can do that - $43.20 a week, I can get bread, milk, noodles, eggs I could manage, bit of fruit and veg -

What more could I need................scares the bejeesus of me!!