AFP and concealing a crime

[village_person]

AFP to break silence over Bali Nine

SOME believe their case is closed while others say they have blood on their hands, but for the first time we will hear the Australian Federal Police’s side of the story when it comes to the investigation into the Bali Nine.

The agency is set to break its silence over its role in the arrests of the drug smugglers in Indonesia, which ultimately led tot he execution of ringleaders Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran last week.

http://www.news.com.au/national/crime/afp-to-break-silence-over-bali-nine/story-fns0kb1g-12273337920...

If the AFP failed to act would it be guilty of concealing a crime? Given our laws allow 16-year-olds to leave home and give the finger to various agencies and parents how on earth could the AFP say to Scot 'brainless' Rush: "NO, you're not leaving Australia."

[***super_nova***]

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village_person wrote: Given our laws allow 16-year-olds to leave home and give the finger to various agencies and parents how on earth could the AFP say to Scot 'brainless' Rush: "NO, you're not leaving Australia."

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They have no problem stopping people leaving Australia if they believe they are going to Syria.

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@village_person wrote:

 If the AFP failed to act would it be guilty of concealing a crime?

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Not if they arrested them on arrival to Australia.  They often watch people and only act when they decide it is the best time.

[azureline**]

The crime had not been committed when the AFP informed the Indonesians.

[polksaladallie]

It appears from the AFP address that some civilians have been lying about the initial contact with them.

[gleee58]

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@polksaladallie wrote:

It appears from the AFP address that some civilians have been lying about the initial contact with them.

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How so?

I don't think the family/lawyer of Rush lied about the contact but at the same time I don't think there is anything the AFP could have done to stop these young people travelling to Indonesia.   

[punch*drunk]

Very informative press conference. Interesting that they had the officer that made the decision to involve the Indonesian police in the investigation. The actual story is vastly different to what the media have tried to spin it into.

4100 deaths per year from heroin and opiates 😞 I must live under a rock, I didnt think it would be anywhere near that many.

[polksaladallie]

How I heard it was that they said he had lied.

He certainly did not tell the truth on Laws this morning.

[punch*drunk]

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@gleee58 wrote:

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@polksaladallie wrote:

It appears from the AFP address that some civilians have been lying about the initial contact with them.

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How so?

I don't think the family/lawyer of Rush lied about the contact but at the same time I don't think there is anything the AFP could have done to stop these young people travelling to Indonesia.   

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I think the person that passed on that information was under the impression it was the AFP's whole case or something. It actually had no real bearing on the outcome.

If you cant keep your own child from leaving the country to smuggle drugs, what did they think they AFP was going to do with a tip off but no evidence.

[village_person]

It's very instuctive to consider preventing a person leaving Australia when people have the right to do as they wish:

When does the law say I am old enough to leave home?

Generally your parents are your legal guardians and it is expected that you will live with your family until you turn 18. However, there is no law in Queensland which says you must stay at home until you are 18.

Once you are 16 you will normally not be forced to return home by the authorities (the police, the Department of Communities, Child Safety and Disability Services,  or the Children's Court as long as you have a safe place to go and you can support yourself financially.

http://www.legalaid.qld.gov.au/legalinformation/youngpeople/Familyandrelationships/Pages/Leavinghome... pages

The fact that a person has a right to forge a future for him or her self at age 16 independently and beyond parental control yet Mr Rush wanted the AFP to step in and prevent Scott Rush (aged about 20) from leaving Australia based on a mere hunch.

[azureline**]

I watched the press conference................... nothing I heard told me that the AFP had any need to inform Indonesia of a crime that "might" take place.

It seems they are all happy with the decision they made.