on 12-02-2014 06:03 AM
There goes the benchmark that keeps our insurance premiums at a decent level.
I don't even understand why this is even necessary given that Medibank makes a profit? It's as if decisions are being made without any thought goig into it other than they promised to do it in 2007 so this is their way of punishing voters for not voting for them in at that time.
What other reason could there be?
on 12-02-2014 11:47 PM
Yep, gotta agree with that. Although I have found this amazing lazy person knife sharpener that you just lightly run the knife through to sharpen these days.
old habits I guess freaki
that's how my dad taught me when I was little, and at 90 odd he was still hand sharpening his knives - he'd have had conniptions if I ever let my knives near a machine to sharpen em - says they create a bevelkled edge which weakens the blade, rather than sharpening across the whole shaft of the blade.
He used to go nuts when the butchers would send their knives to the knife sharpener dude who used the machine - so he used to pay them to sharpen their knives by hand at work. - every Monday morning before the beef bodies came in, and again on wednesdays when the pork and lamb came in. an hour per knife per day (butchers only have 2, maybe 3 knives - a slicing knife, and a couple of boning knives)
just used a diamond sharpening steel in between.
I don't use a machine and don't use it every time but it deos a good job between "proper" sharpenings 😄
on 12-02-2014 11:47 PM
Greetings, everyone. This thread has gone off-topic, so suggest starting a new topic for better discussion. Thanks. 🙂
on 12-02-2014 11:50 PM
Would it be possible for you to split it into two threads please, so we don't lose the rythym of the diuscussion?
on 12-02-2014 11:56 PM
@crikey*mate wrote:
@spotweldersfriend wrote:Some factories are smart enough to rotate staff to perform different tasks.Not only does it make it more interesting for the factory worker,but it cuts down on the number of injuries.
I guess cos they would be more attentive.
would still be horrible work though
dunno, I just think of factories as big tin sheds, and the heat of a qld summer baking all the workers
at least a butcher shop is air conditioned and if you get too hot in a kitchen you can duck into the coolroom.
and I guess if you werer working in the fields as you do Spot, that if you got too hot, you could just poor a bottle of water over you and no one would mind?
My only factory experience was frozen vegies.
My favourite job was in the freezer area. Get hot then go to the snow storm. Not so good for your health but was a big eye opening adventure.
on 13-02-2014 12:03 AM
Sorry, we can't. You might want to message people interested in the off-topic discussion to join the new topic. Remember that off-topic discussion will be locked. 🙂
on 13-02-2014 12:32 AM
@gewens wrote:Sorry, we can't. You might want to message people interested in the off-topic discussion to join the new topic. Remember that off-topic discussion will be locked. 🙂
No worries!
We do appreciate your contribution nonetheless
But sheesh, we can split threads in the groups, you guys don't get any fun toys to play with eh?
RUNS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
on 13-02-2014 08:58 AM
@crikey*mate wrote:
@icyfroth wrote:Not to mention Schapelle...
I'm sure that she is a good person at heart. It seems she just made a few wrong choices in her life.
Look at the good things she has done
Has increased the awareness of what a Boogie Board is, and now the whole world will want one!
filched this from facebook lol
on 13-02-2014 11:16 AM
This thread is beginning to sound like a jazz band......everybody doin' their own thing.
Can we PLEASE stick to the subject of the thread.
Some of us are interested in the subject.
on 13-02-2014 11:17 AM
I think we need to take a step backwards and explore why statutory corporations were brought into existence in the first place.
In the dim dark but not too distant past is was accepted that it was in the national interest that the provision of some products or services was so fundamental to the wellbeing of society so that , (1) their cost to the consumer should never be determined by market forces (supply and demand and what the customer was prepared to pay); and/or, though the bulk of the product/service was to be provided by the private sector, public sector involvement was deemed necessary so as to create a leveller in the market.
The first category used to be known as essential services and included products such as, the provision of a postal service so that even the poorest in the community could keep in contact by sending and receiving letters, the generation and supply of electricity so that all could access it at a reasonable cost, the supply of potable water etc. The second group comprised corporations which were Government owned and whose function it was to actively compete with like businesses in the private sector thus keeping prices within reasonable limits. Corporations which fell within these category included the Commonwealth Bank, Telecom, Medibank etc.
Now the one thing all politicians, irrespective of political persuasion, won’t abide is being held accountable. Therefore, that which holds them accountable must go and this, and not debt reduction, was the main reason why these corporation were sold off. For instance, when the generation and supply of electricity was a public sector function, every time the government wanted to increase prices there was a voter backlash.
So here is where we are now at.
Before privatisation, not only did we have some of the lowest electricity prices on the planet but as it also generated a profit that profit was to the benefit of the community as a whole. Today, we pay the highest prices in the world with all profits going to a select few. The same every essential service which has been sold off.
As for the levellers, in every case, once sold, there has been an increase in prices coupled with a reduction in service. As an example, when the Commonwealth Bank was government owned, not only did it operate at a profit, profits which were returned to the community vide general revenue, but also fees banks fees and charges were kept within reasonable limits. Then post sale, the banks went into a fee feeding frenzy so that now we pay some of the highest bank charges in the world. The same goes for telecommunications. We now pay some the highest phone and data charges in the world for what, in regional Australia is little more than a 3rd world service.
And it’s now medical insurance’s turn. Once Medibank has been sold off you will see a rapid increase in fees coupled with a similarly rapid decrease in services covered, thus forcing more and more people into the public sector funded medical services, services which can’t cope now. The end result, within 10 years we’ll have an American style system. That is if you can afford insurance, you get treated. If you can’t afford insurance, and you have a life threating condition - you die.
That is it has never been, nor will it ever be in the national interest that these corporations be sold off. However it has always been and will always be in political self-interest that they be sold and this is the driving force behind them being sold.
on 13-02-2014 11:23 AM