Adler shotgun, do we really need this gun in australia?

[davidc4430]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-05/national-mps-angry-over-plans-to-reclassify-adler-shotgun/8091...

do we NEED this gun in australia or is there a NEED to have something by a few who just want it.

just what will this gun do that isnt being done by guns allready available?

i know it fires a lot more shots very quickly, but how is that important?

its not like anyones will be tring to 'drop' a rampaging elephant in australia.

i just dont get it, as ms hanson would say....PLEASE EXPLAIN?

[davidc4430]

well lets just hope none of those who do have the ability to get one of these guns doesnt 'have a bad day' and kills multiple people with it.

[lyndal1838]

I can't say I have heard of too many massacres in Australia since Martin Bryant was locked up.

We aren't in the USA.

[davidc4430]

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@lyndal1838 wrote:

I can't say I have heard of too many massacres in Australia since Martin Bryant was locked up.

We aren't in the USA.

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i'm sure if anyone had made a statement the week before, no lets say the day before martin bryant went a huntin', we need to get automatic rifels banned.

one you would have got the why? we dont have mass shootin's here dear.

then you would be lectured on the fact only sensible people owned automatic rifles.

[lyndal1838]

It is a different culture in Australia to the USA where everyone is h*ll bent on having guns to "protect" themselves.

How many of the kids that have been massacred ever had the chance to protect themselves.....in fact, how many of the adults had the opportunity either.

Australians don't make a song and dance about owning guns.

My father had a gun from before I was born.....the first I knew of it was in 2004 when I found a beautifully handmade and finished case under his bed.  I asked what it had been for and learned then that he had owned a gun which he hand handed in when the new laws came into effect.  So for 60 odd years there was a gun in my parents house and I had no idea.

Compare the mass shootings in the USA with the ONE in Australia...........I think Australians are much more level headed about gun ownership.

[myoclon1cjerk]

Hoddle St massacre and the Queen St massacre. There's 2 more for your list.

[davidc4430]

i wonder if we took the word 'mass' out and replaced it with 'murder suicides' just how many innocent lives have been lost to guns in australia since martin bryants rant?

[lyndal1838]

A h*ll of a lot less than in the USA.

I rather doubt that an Adler shotgun would be the weapon of choice in a murder/suicide....and anyone who wants to kill themselves and their family would probably already have a weapon.  They are hardly going to rush out and buy an Adler just for that purpose.

[davidc4430]

so you rekon someone plans ahead to have a breakdown, runs out and buys a weapon, then murders his (or her) wife and kids before killing themselves?

i thought it was usually a weapon allready at hand, that gun under the bed no one realised was there maybe?

of course there is a lot less here than in the USA, they have silly gun laws plus a population how many times bigger than australia?

however i do think anyone on the wrong end of a shooting might argue about the need for another high powered weapon in the mix.

i would be interested it a comparison of the number of gun related shootings in the family situation by guns to owners in the population though.

i'd bet a dollar if someone took an adler into parliment and shot 6 ministers it would get banned real fast.

[myoclon1cjerk]

Depends on which 6 ministers,David 😉

[tezza2844]

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@myoclon1cjerk wrote:
Hoddle St massacre and the Queen St massacre. There's 2 more for your list.

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There have quite a few massacres not all involving guns:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Australia