Alcohol question

[hahahavefun]

If a small framed female say weighing around 46 - 50 kilos drank bourbon and coke from around 3.20pm to between 9 - 10 every week night do you believe she would still be over the limit if she got in her car to drive at say 6am the morning after . 

Someone i know drinks like this and its more on a Friday and Saturday night as she stays up later. She doesnt see her drinking as a problem because she budgets for it . In 6 days she has drunk 2 x 1.25 ltrs bourbon and started on a 3rd not to mention all the coke tht she has also .

I believe if she got pulled over on the way to work one morning she would blow over the limit, would you agree ?

[buzzlightyearsgirlfriend]

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@just*duff wrote:

I wouldnt suggest AA for anyone. or NA.

The first thing they tell you is you can't stop drinking or using by yourself. you will only make it by being part of a group.

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No. That's incorrect. 

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@just*duff wrote:

The secong thing they tell you is to believe in a 'higher power'-  you have to turn your life and will over to a god.

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LOL!

Your "higher power" can be anything you want it to be! No mention of Gods at AA NA or Al Alon.

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@just*duff wrote:

but possibly the worst thing about these groups is the people that get there. a lot of them are criminals who have evaded jail by being court ordered to go to rehab and AA or NA meetings. they're all fine and dandy until they start drinking and drugging again. then you dont know who youre dealing with.

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Not usually in Australia. On American TV perhaps, but it's not like that here.

[Anonymous]

I would suggest long term rehab, where you will learn tools to deal with life when you get out.

I would also suggest believing in yourself, not a higher power.

Its works for some and glad it worked for you. but alot get stuck in the revolving door and or sitting in bleak meetings every day for the rest of their lives rehashing glory days.

[Anonymous]

No. That's incorrect.

No, that's correct

Your "higher power" can be anything you want it to be! No mention of Gods at AA NA or Al Alon.

You obviously haven't read the 12 steps.

Not usually in Australia. On American TV perhaps, but it's not like that here.

Have you actually attended any meetings? it doesnt sound like it if you dont know anything about the 12 steps.

[joz*garage]

possibly a detox centre first duff depending on the addicts condition

but AA or NA is part of rehabilitation centre's program a resident must attend them atleast 3 times a week, and in my opinion essential to your recovery

such a confidence builder and an ego deflator!

the higher power i believed in at the time was the rehab centre and NA meetings coz i was unmanageable... which progressed to myself!

[Anonymous]

Yeah thats right Joe, detox first possibly.

and AA/NA usually is part of a rehab program. but I wouldnt say they are essential to recovery. thats jmo.

Im glad the program worked for you but I still wouldnt recommend it. lol

[joz*garage]

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@just*duff wrote:

Yeah thats right Joe, detox first possibly.

and AA/NA usually is part of a rehab program. but I wouldnt say they are essential to recovery. thats jmo.

Im glad the program worked for you but I still wouldnt recommend it. lol

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well, depending on the quality of your recovery you want. most people (especially addicts) are fearful of talking about themselves in front of an audience, once you overcome that...well...skys the limit, lol

but most of they teach in rehab is from the 12 step NA or AA program isn't it? can't remember now

i went beyond that though and did a 10 day meditation camp, that really hit home for me, blew me away

so a combination of everything is what i would recommend

but i agree with you , rehab is the key 

[Anonymous]

Just did a quick google search for secular help for addicts and found

http://alcoholism.about.com/od/non/

and SOS which is in the states, not sure if its here too

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_Organizations_for_Sobriety

[Anonymous]

haha @ skys the limit

been years since I did rehab too. but I dont remember any mention of AA or NA or anything to do with that besides get ya butt in the bus and get off to a meeting when meetings were on.

[hahahavefun]

I'll start by explaining more . She drinks Monday to Thursday from about 3.15 pm to between 9 - 10 PM only stopping at this time as she gets up for work those days at 4.45 am and leaves home at 6am . No breakfast only a cup of coffee . 

Friday she will start again around 3.15 pm and can drink till midnight till 1 or 2 the next morning .

Saturday she will start again around 1 to 3 pm and again will drink till early hours of the morning .

She never has breakfast , has lunch and dinner but these are not what you would call a large meal .

She drinks bourbon with Diet Coke which i have been told is worse then having normal coke cola.

A family member told her once she had a problem and she went off saying it isnt a problem because she budgets for her drinking .

If her time is delayed in the afternoon by a few hrs to have her first drink she starts getting agitated or peeved off .

Im very surprised she hasnt seriously hurt herself giving how she has been found some mornings with the latest episode of breaking a floor to ceiling high glass mirror in a section . Her excuse is she tripped over a towel because she never hax the light on .

I have been told unless people like this are willing to admit they have a problem there is nothing you can do .

[joz*garage]

NA meetings were compulsory where i was, there was no excuses too, even if you were crook they'd carry you on the bus, lol

man.. i tried every trick in the book to avoid meetings too.

the thought of attending meetings made me sick

when asked to share i always declined..it took me about 2 months to gain enough courage to say something and compose a sentence

yes i misunderstood you before, because i thought all rehabs are connected to NA/AA in some way

and you are right, an addict can recover without the influence of a NA 12 step program

i remember now there was another rehab in the country somewhere, where there wasnt a 12 step program approach and they treated your addiction as just an experience in your life, rumour had it they might be clean but turn out arrrrrs hols