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@amber-eyed-girl wrote:

@this-one-time-at-bandcamp wrote:

It is readily apparent that the citizens of Burns, Oregon don't agree with you.  A peaceful protest doesn't require the protestors be armed, and willing to kill "if provoked".  Their seizing of Federal property was a provocation instigated by these very same ARMED thugs.

 

Oh, and I don't pay any attention to whom I am replying to, I just hit "reply" to the post above mine..........and if you can't determine the individuals I was referring to, that's your loss..........naming names generates "interpersonal dispute" sanctions.

 

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Not paying attention, often creates disputes.

 

 

The use of the word "terrorism", as said further in this thread, needs to be approached carefully. It has a meaning, and there is, a reaction, that is clearly set by previous acts of killing. A protest, has a different meaning and generates a different emotional response. To any reasonable person, the thread title can mean another 9/11 just happened. Think about that, and see the difference.


Good point.

 

terrorism
ˈtɛrərɪzəm/
noun
 
  1. the unofficial or unauthorized use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.
     
     
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Your last sentence (in the post before your last one 🙂 ) implies, a racial or religious bias towards the use of the word terrorism. I, don't have one. Terrorism can be perpetrated by anyone.


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Perhaps you glossed over this snippet of information:  Even the Harney County sheriff is in opposition to the terrorists.  Harney County Sheriff David Ward on Sunday afternoon said a group of militants that seized an eastern Oregon wildlife refuge is trying to overthrow the local and federal governments.  The group, Ward said, comprises outsiders who came to Harney County claiming to be part of militia groups supporting local ranchers. In a news release Sunday, Ward said that "in reality these men had alternative motives to attempt to over throw the county and federal government in hopes to spark a movement across the United States."  If that doesn't constitute terrorism, I don't know what does.

 

When individuals from different states gather at a location, they're not there for the obvious reason, they have ulterior motives, and Sheriff David Ward hit the nail squarely on the head.

 

Richo.......the plight of Australian ranchers, and the actions of the Bundys in refusing to pay grazing fees, and the Hammonds in poaching and using arson to hide it are comparing apples to bananas.  The Hammonds claim that they want to return the land to "its native state".  Unfortunately for them, the land's native state is that it was tribal land seized from what is now the Burns Paiute Tribe.

 

The Malheur River Indian Reservation was created by executive order on March 14, 1871, and the Northern Paiute within the Oregon state boundaries were settled there. Descendants of these people form a federally recognized tribal entity, the Burns Paiute Tribe, which had 341 members in 2008.[3] Fewer than 35.5% of the tribal members live on the Burns Paiute Indian Colony near Burns.[3] The tribe earns revenue from a small casino, the Old Camp Casino, and renting out communal tribal lands for grazing rights to local ranchers.

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No. I didn't gloss over anything.

 

My opinion about the thread title, stands. It gave a particular impression, where the "act" had been given a light not supported by the link that followed in the first post. As to whether it was meant to give that impression, I wouldn't want to say. As I didn't post it.

 

That, has been my objection. Initial impression was there had been a bloodbath.


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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

@youcandoityoucandoityoucandoit wrote:

@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

Many black American are demanding what they see as justice for Tamir Rice. If a group of such protestors were to arm themselves, barricade themselves inside a public building and threaten violence if the police tried to remove them. How long would they be left alive to protest and how would they be described in public media?

 

 


 

 

I dont understand.

 

This hasnt happened, right? Its conjecture...

 

 

Are you doing research?


maybe I should have emphasised the IF and WERE TO and  added more question marks. Since I can't recall an incident where a group of armed  black activists has ever barricaded themselves inside a government owned building and threatened violence against the police if they tried to temove them, of course it has to be conjecture - but but for those who maintain this current incident is not an act of terrorism it is nevertheless, perhaps, a question worth considering


Maybe you could have just been clear.

As others are trying to point out, its pure conjecture, and provocative.

 

Id rather use my time considering facts.

 

 

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

@*julia*2010 wrote:

and

 

you posted the thread yesterday

and the article in HERALD SUN  (Newscorp, Murdoch Press)

is less than an hour old so you couldn't have

seen it there. 


Yesterday I posted a thread entitled Another Terrorist Attack In US It indicted my belief that thie incident was an act of terrorism and I provided a link to a news page to provide the facts and show why I held that opinion.  Today, the Sun Herald has published an article providing even more detailed facts and agreeing with my opinion. Since the Sun Herald is in the Muedoch stable and could not  be described by even the mosst rabid 'right wingers'  as representing the 'loony left' I feel my opinion has been somewhat vindicated.

 

Stawka disagrees with my opinion and that of the Sun Herald and has provided her own lllinks to show why she disagrees  On that basis she and I  are abe to have an intelligent debate without resorting to personal innuendo. Stawka did ask me if I had watched the video, but you will notice that at no time has either of us  accused the othe of not checking our sources or of relying on social media for our opinions


all that has nothing to do with my

post. 

 

i suggested, in response to stawks question,

that you probably got this idea from social

media, to which you responded by providing

a link to an article which was published the

next day.  it doesn't add up.

 

how did you initially learn about this?

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Stawka did ask me if I had watched the video

 

and you haven't answered

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

Stawka did ask me if I had watched the video

 

and you haven't answered


No I haven't, does that bother you?

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moonflyte
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The title of this thread was pure click bait. Pretty shameful to equate it to terrorism when its not.

There is a certain motive behind this post but I cant be bothered going into it. It has already  been exposed by most on here.

 

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The dictionary definition of terrorism is: the unofficial or unauthorized use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

 

What is your definition?

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