on 13-04-2014 12:07 PM
There is no way I will be. I am not planning to work beyond 55!
But it won't affect people like me will it? I have my own plans and they will be self funded.
So once again, it will be those less fortunate and less able to take care of themselves who will suffer.
on 13-04-2014 03:10 PM
@polocross58 wrote:Nero ---- Switzerland gives all elderly citizens a decent amount of money on which to survive
I dont remember you being this vocal when labor was in and all the money you mention above that is being given to OS is still from failed labor policy.
I dont remember you being this vocal when Labor raised the pension age to 67? Where were you then
The LNP have slashed our OS AID money. You should know this as there has been enough threads about that on here from the left and how bad it is and we should give more to OS countries etc. But then you know this already
Where were you when labor was giving away BILLIONS to OS AID and raising the pension age.
Cant remember you being vocal at all on these subjects?
on 13-04-2014 03:11 PM
@nero_wulf wrote:
@donnashuggy wrote:
Still waiting for proof of your accusations in post 69
Please provide it or s it just an accusation that has no proof at all?
What accusation? There is no accusation? I think you are reading something from nothing.
on 13-04-2014 03:13 PM
@nero_wulf wrote:
@polocross58 wrote:Nero ---- Switzerland gives all elderly citizens a decent amount of money on which to survive
I dont remember you being this vocal when labor was in and all the money you mention above that is being given to OS is still from failed labor policy.
I dont remember you being this vocal when Labor raised the pension age to 67? Where were you then
The LNP have slashed our OS AID money. You should know this as there has been enough threads about that on here from the left and how bad it is and we should give more to OS countries etc. But then you know this already
Where were you when labor was giving away BILLIONS to OS AID and raising the pension age.
Cant remember you being vocal at all on these subjects?
Why can't you just address the OP?
Will YOU be working until you are 70? And how do you feel about those poor unfortunate people who don't have a decent retirement plan in place?
13-04-2014 03:15 PM - edited 13-04-2014 03:16 PM
@i-need-a-martini wrote:
@nero_wulf wrote:Labor supporters have very short memories
The decision to increase the pension age was taken in 2009 under Labor to 67
Labor introduced changes in 2009 that will see the pension age rise from 65 to 67 between 2017 and 2023.
The official retirement age will rise from 65 years to 67. No-one in Australia will be able to access the age pension until they have celebrated their 67th birthday.
The age of 67 is hardly a milestone these days. When the age pension was introduced in the first decade of the 20th century, for many people their 65th year coincided with the unhappy event of their death. Plenty had already dropped off the perch before then.
What is fascinating is that no-one mentioned or pointed the finger at either the Labor or Liberal governments until you decided to put your 2cents in.
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TRY post 3 and post 8 and post 24 and post 27 and I could find more but seems your left leaning friends turned this political, NOT me... but anyway carry on 🙂
on 13-04-2014 03:15 PM
on 13-04-2014 03:22 PM
People can already work well into their 70s if they want to, but will there be many employers who will want to keep the over 70s on the payroll?
My husband worked until 70, then part time for a couple of years. Until one day his boss told him he was sorry, as much as he neded my husbands expertise and contribution, but he can not keep people over 65 anymore. Workers Compensation Insurance has increased dramatically for workers over that age, and for over 70s it's almost as much as the wages those people earn.
With such expenses to keep workers over the retirement age, how many employers will be willing to pay all that extra insurance? It will have to come out of their profits.
My husband is 76 and would love a full time job. He gets bored easy, as any workaholic would. Thank goodness he has a few hobbies, but for him it's not as satisfying as working for wages.
Erica
13-04-2014 03:25 PM - edited 13-04-2014 03:27 PM
@i-need-a-martini wrote:
@nero_wulf wrote:
@polocross58 wrote:Nero ---- Switzerland gives all elderly citizens a decent amount of money on which to survive
I dont remember you being this vocal when labor was in and all the money you mention above that is being given to OS is still from failed labor policy.
I dont remember you being this vocal when Labor raised the pension age to 67? Where were you then
The LNP have slashed our OS AID money. You should know this as there has been enough threads about that on here from the left and how bad it is and we should give more to OS countries etc. But then you know this already
Where were you when labor was giving away BILLIONS to OS AID and raising the pension age.
Cant remember you being vocal at all on these subjects?
Why can't you just address the OP?
Will YOU be working until you are 70? And how do you feel about those poor unfortunate people who don't have a decent retirement plan in place?
How do you feel about having to work to 67 as is happening right now from 2017 due to LABOR policy?
Even if this ever comes in it will be a decade or 2 away, unlike Labors age increas as thats only 3 years away.... How do you feel about that?
Will I be working at 70..... If I feel I want to YES..... wont need to but may want to..... fit and healthy so why not.....
@i-need-a-martini wrote:
@nero_wulf wrote:
@donnashuggy wrote:
Still waiting for proof of your accusations in post 69
Please provide it or s it just an accusation that has no proof at all?
What accusation? There is no accusation? I think you are reading something from nothing.
Yes there is, I am being accused of not supporting the labor age increase to 67 in post 69, I would like proof where I did that.... No proof has been forthcoming just accusations..
So its a simple request, back the accusation up with proof, thats all I am asking..
on 13-04-2014 03:27 PM
Nero you still havent explained why you didn;t support the rise from 65 to 67 but support the rise from 65 to 70 ? you havent explained this here.
on 13-04-2014 03:27 PM
@donnashuggy wrote:The seniors of today have already PAID for their retirement
That's right!
And most of the Seniors of today haven't got healthy super to fall back on.
on 13-04-2014 03:28 PM
Nero ------------- you have a short memory. Or maybe your memory's fading? If so, you could be on the bread-line before you know it. Tell me how it feels to sit on a waiting list for a place in an Altzheimers care home. Maybe you could write to Hockey then to let him know what it's like to be a member of the Invisibles along with all the aged-pensioners begging for a crust of mouldy bread and at Hockey's mercies
Hey Nero ---------- I'm not owned by any of the scum political parties. None of them have earned my allegiance --- ever
No politician or party has earned my unqualified respect and I suspect most people with a functioning brain feel likewise
They're ALL scum from the bottom of the barrell
They're ALL obedient to multinationals, corporations, zionist thugs, etc.
They're ALL in it for the money and to feather their own nests
We get beggar all for our money or our votes
We're played for mugs and are ripped off by whatever gang of thugs holds office
Now Hockey is obeying some edict from 'above' and would sell his grandmother let alone aged Aussies
BUT Hockey's doing alright, isn't he?
Hockey won't be forced to live in the dark without heating in winter with scraps of newspaper on his cuts because he's saving up his band-aids for when he 'goes out' like the old women living invisible lives in one-room hovels for which they're charged half their pension
Never mind MY posts, Nero
Watch your own