Are you prepared to work until you are 70?

[i-need-a-martini]

There is no way I will be. I am not planning to work beyond 55!

But it won't affect people like me will it? I have my own plans and they will be self funded.

So once again, it will be those less fortunate and less able to take care of themselves who will suffer.

[debra9275]

Yeah, I get that scenario. My OH is basically a waiter, so whilst rough work, not in the same league as a labourer, but he's pretty much done now at 52. He's a fit boy, but his body is wearing out.

well imagine if he HAD to work till seventy

people get tired you know

[lakeland27]

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

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@diamond-halo wrote:

Nah, it's not a good thing, I get that, especially for those in hard labour kinds of jobs, but hopefully as time passes and society changes those kinds of jobs will largely phase out and people will drift towards more long term sustainable employment.

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How do you 'phase out' what a brickie does? Or a plumber? Or a hairdresser? Or a farmhand? Or a restaurant dishwasher? Or a nanny? Or a taxi driver? Or a labourer? Or a boilermaker? 

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shows what forward thinkers these idiots are. as spot pointed out how are we going to employ the youth of the country with hair-brain schemes such as this.  i notice the harpie albrechtson likes the idea.. that alone should ring alarm bells.

[debra9275]

yeah!

[i-need-a-martini]

And to top it off, Hockey had this to say:

“It is about what we want to be in 5, 10, 20 years' time and I often ask myself if there's a drug that's going to save my child's life in 10 years' time and I couldn't afford it, I would expect the government to help me out,’’ he said.

“Now in 10 years' time is the government going to have the money to be able to afford that drug? They might have it today but they won't have it tomorrow unless we actually start fixing the budget now.”

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/joe-hockey-confirms-pension-age-could-rise-to-...

[debra9275]

well, they could start by getting rid of that stupid paid parental leave that we can't afford for starters

[*crikey*mate*]

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

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@diamond-halo wrote:

Nah, it's not a good thing, I get that, especially for those in hard labour kinds of jobs, but hopefully as time passes and society changes those kinds of jobs will largely phase out and people will drift towards more long term sustainable employment.

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How do you 'phase out' what a brickie does? Or a plumber? Or a hairdresser? Or a farmhand? Or a restaurant dishwasher? Or a nanny? Or a taxi driver? Or a labourer? Or a boilermaker? 

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Train them to own the business, then they get yopunger more agile people to supply the braun whilst they switch over to more administration type jobs.

Off shoot specialties that still use the same skills, ones where the basic skills and knowledge are needed.

see, for every negative you throw up, I can find a positive solution, but your mind is not open enough to explore the possibilities. It won't be immediate and there will be short term collateral damage, but over time, societal thinking will change and adapt.

You say "what about the poor labourer" I say "what about the person who doesn't want to retire, the person who wants to earn more than his pension"

[i-need-a-martini]

Or they could increase the tax threashold for those earning above $180,000 pa.

[lakeland27]

hockey might consider legislating to stop the majority of profits from mining going offshore to people who dont work at all, that might be a good start. he cries 'emergency' to hide his complicity in tax evasion. he really thinks the public are stupid.

[*crikey*mate*]

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

People my work towards getting a more sustainable jobs. But those other jobs still need someone to do them.

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let the younger generations fill them as their stepping stones for higher fields.

even the general Manager of a hotel, started off polishing cutlery, washing dishes, scrubbing floors, taking the garbage out....

[i-need-a-martini]

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@diamond-halo wrote:

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

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@diamond-halo wrote:

Nah, it's not a good thing, I get that, especially for those in hard labour kinds of jobs, but hopefully as time passes and society changes those kinds of jobs will largely phase out and people will drift towards more long term sustainable employment.

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How do you 'phase out' what a brickie does? Or a plumber? Or a hairdresser? Or a farmhand? Or a restaurant dishwasher? Or a nanny? Or a taxi driver? Or a labourer? Or a boilermaker? 

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Train them to own the business, then they get yopunger more agile people to supply the braun whilst they switch over to more administration type jobs.

Off shoot specialties that still use the same skills, ones where the basic skills and knowledge are needed.

see, for every negative you throw up, I can find a positive solution, but your mind is not open enough to explore the possibilities. It won't be immediate and there will be short term collateral damage, but over time, societal thinking will change and adapt.

You say "what about the poor labourer" I say "what about the person who doesn't want to retire, the person who wants to earn more than his pension"

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You are confusing your family with a family that doesn't have the same advantages or support.

I KNOW that YOUR children will be fine. I KNOW that MY children will be fine.

I also KNOW that not all children have the same opportunities as ours do. It's not a case of "opening my mind". It's a case of understanding what happens to those less fortunate.