Arson and the Morwell Hazelwood coal mine fire

[k0llectable5]

Personally | think that it's convienient for GDF Suez, some media outlets and the Govt to blame arson for the fire that spotted into the Hazelwood open cut coal mine fire on February 9th (which according to the CFA website) is still burning out of control.  

What about the fact that the mine had no firefighting structures in place, and that the disused mine hadn't been properly rehabilitated. The good people of the Latrobe Valley in Victoria deserve honest answers to these questions.  

Your thoughts....

[lakeland27]

i agree. its a nightmare,  privatisation at work.

[azureline**]

How would you prove otherwise?

[k0llectable5]

I'm not really debating that the original fire was deliberately lit. My problem is that outlets like the Herald Sun continually bang on about arson, GDF Suez themselves like to throw it into their public statements as well. It just seems to me that it's a cop out by them to blame arson, when it seems to me had they maintained the mine fire would never have been this bad.

[k0llectable5]

maintained the mine *properly* the fire would never have been this bad.

[fourandsixpants]

replying to:

I'm not really debating that the original fire was deliberately lit. My problem is that outlets like the Herald Sun continually bang on about arson, GDF Suez themselves like to throw it into their public statements as well. It just seems to me that it's a cop out by them to blame arson, when it seems to me had they maintained the mine fire would never have been this bad.

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blaming all recent large fires on arson is the preferred choice ......flavour of the month is 'burnt toast'.

....hard to disprove but lame IMO and very negligent. Lack of Duty of Care comes to mind.

[the_great_she_elephant]

The police are convinced it was an arsonist who caused the fire.

Incompetence and  a lack of proper firefighting facitiesat the site  may well have been  the reasons it wasn't put out before it got out of control.

[*pepe]

they are banging on about arson to deflect the focus from their negligence.

years ago there were fire fighting strategies and rquipment in place, but they fell victim to cost cutting measures.

I hope their negligence costs them dearly so they ensure this never happens again.

[k0llectable5]

It seems that way paintsew.  I'm skeptical.  If someone can be blamed then the compensation payments will flow, if it's a natural disaster then very few insurance companies will pay.  I researched wildfires and open cut  brown coal mine fires. The interesting truth about both is that given the "right"conditions ie: temperature, carbon, Oxygen levels ect both have the capability to spontaniously combust.  

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@paintsew007 wrote:

replying to:

I'm not really debating that the original fire was deliberately lit. My problem is that outlets like the Herald Sun continually bang on about arson, GDF Suez themselves like to throw it into their public statements as well. It just seems to me that it's a cop out by them to blame arson, when it seems to me had they maintained the mine fire would never have been this bad.

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blaming all recent large fires on arson is the preferred choice ......flavour of the month is 'burnt toast'.

....hard to disprove but lame IMO and very negligent. Lack of Duty of Care comes to mind.

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Are you saying it is your belief that recent fires that have been blamed on arsonists were really caused accidentally because of slack safety practices and that the police anfd ifre departments have been complicit in cover-ups?