Aussie dole bludgers too lazy to Work

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Job snobs: Aussie dole bludgers too lazy to pick up $250 a day picking fruit

 

 

YOUNG, jobless Aussies are lazy and unwilling to break their welfare dependence, ­according to leading wine producers and citrus growers who are becoming ever more reliant on backpackers to stay in operation

 

Despite an urgent need for unskilled workers, regional Australia is struggling to ­attract young people from the city despite youth unemployment in Western Sydney peaking at 17 per cent, forcing growers in the nation’s food bowls to look overseas.

 

Wine growers in the Hunter Valley who still rely heavily on fruit pickers, claim there has been no interest from ­unemployed youth in Sydney to earn easy cash — up to $250 a day — picking grapes, as the region prepares for today’s official start of the 2015 harvest.

 

So it is backpackers or bust, with several operators claiming without the injection of foreign workers, many wine producers in the Hunter Valley would cease to exist.

 

‘‘We would probably be stuffed without them. The problem is, our unemployed don’t have to work, it’s too easy for them, plus a lot of them come with baggage; real problems,’’ winemaker and former chairman of the Hunter Valley Wine Industry Association’s viticulture committee Ken Bray said.

 

‘‘They are too reliant on welfare and don’t want to go where the jobs are.’’

 

While most of Drayton Wines grapes are picked by a mechanical harvester, manager John Drayton said the winery still uses backpackers to pick from older vines.

 

He, like Andrew Pengilly from Tyrrells Wines, rarely gets ­interest from locals or those struggling to find work two hours away in Sydney.

 

 

 

‘‘Should unemployed youth be coming up here to pick? Well, I’m a bit old school. Yes of course. A lot of people are saying that up here,’’ Mr Drayton said.

 

‘‘But that is the feeling about the whole society. People are ­unwilling to work.”

 

Across the state’s Riverina, the food bowl of NSW, the need for unskilled workers continues undiminished, despite it qualifying for the Howard government initiative to give foreigners an ­extension to their working visa if they work three months in rural Australia.

 

While the need for workers grows, the appeal for ­unemployed city residents appears non-existent.

 

‘‘There are definitely a lot of opportunities in rural Australia, but it seems people think the change would be too stressful.

 

“We don’t have fast food joints open 24 hours a day, or big shopping centres,’’ Griffith orange grower Vito Mancini said.

 

‘‘Just come out for a month, try it out. Don’t say there is no work about, because there is plenty.’’

 

Fellow Griffith farmer David Dissegna said: ‘‘The unemployed don’t want to do this kind of work. We would be in dire straits without foreign workers.’’

 

Fruit growers are not the only business owners lobbying the government to relax 417 visa restrictions, ahead of the tabling of the Northern Australia Development whitepaper next month.

 

In regional Queensland backpackers are keeping towns afloat.

 

‘‘We’ll give a job to anyone who’ll pull on a pair of work boots and have a go,’’ McKinley roadhouse owner Aidan Day, 65, said.

 

The number of working holiday visas has grown by a third since 2008 and visas for 18-to-30-year-olds are being fast-tracked to 48 hours.

 

 BACKPACKERS UP FOR HARD WORK IN OZ

 

 

 

IN Germany Denny Spaeth sits ­behind a desk working in a car manufacturing plant, but in ­Australia he is a man of the land, driving a forklift and heaving ­pumpkins out of the ground.

 

Mr Spaeth and girlfriend Jennifer Herde, a kindergarten teacher, are among the flood of European backpackers who earn travelling money working as fruitpickers. They are not afraid of a hard day’s work.

 

The couple arrived in Australia in August and worked for two months in Ayr, near Townsville, picking pumpkins, watermelons and squash. Mr Spaeth was able to earn $23 an hour driving a forklift.

 

The couple will spend the next month pricking grapes in the ­Hunter Valley. Mr Spaeth said they had loved their time Down Under and working on farms was hard but satisfying work.

 

“It’s life experience. You learn a lot about yourself and it would not be bad for young people,” he said.

 

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/job-snobs-aussie-dole-bludgers-too-lazy-to-pick-up-250-a-d...

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@icyfroth wrote:

@debra9275 wrote:
well You were very fortunate to have tax payers footing the bill and supporting you when you needed it. A lot like these days really

Yes indeed and I was very grateful.

 

it's reversed now though. Many ppl don't need to work because they have the dole.

 

Hence we import ppl from overseas to work while we have a whole subculture of ppl sitting at home on the public purse, because it's not worth their while to look for work. Jobs like fruit picking, for instance.


If you have people in your family sitting around bludging off the dole deal with it.  Just please stop lumbering the rest of our people under the same label because the vast majority of people do work, do search for work, do take what they can get until they find better jobs and are not lazy bludgers sitting on their butts on the public purse.     

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I just had a look at newstart allowance. Maximum is 515.00  per fortnight for a single person. Even taking into consideration rent assistance, health card, I don't think I could live a very satisfactory life on that.

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@harley_babes_hoard wrote:
companies bring in those on 457 visas because most aussies don't want to work 14 hour days in 45 degree heat at least in the mines. It's spot the aussie out there. Most are Irish, kiwis, asians.

It might be spot the Aussie but there are a lot of Aussie people who have moved to areas trying to get work in the mines who get rejected for not having the right experience or for being desperate enough to move to a temporary address.   The beauty of 457 visas is that half the wage can be returned to payer by way of board and fees therefore they're a lot cheaper in the end than Aussie staff and they don't care  about OH&S rules.

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It would be a pretty miserable existence Katy, not something most would aspire to. I couldn't do it either
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@debra9275 wrote:
Do you get that information from the murdoch press icy?
No those are my own words from my own observations and experiences.
You needed it once and you don't believe people need it now?
I needed it once then got a job and haven't needed it since.
There are many who need it now and either can't find work because there's not much out there, or they turn their nose up at what's available, because they can.
Because they can live ok on the dole. Or, like Man Monis, they can pocket welfare, run an undeclared business and sprout hate speech against the hand that feeds him.


I find that to be bizarre to be honest

 

Of course you do.


 

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that's an excuse. It doesn't take any skill to get a dump truck licence. My girlfriend who can't read or write very well managed to get a job in the mines just doing a course and paying her money. no experience. her daughter got in the mines as a peggy (cleaner) also no experience.
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@icyfroth wrote:

@debra9275 wrote:
Do you get that information from the murdoch press icy?
No those are my own words from my own observations and experiences.
Do you live in a particularly low socio-economic area to make those observations?
You needed it once and you don't believe people need it now?
I needed it once then got a job and haven't needed it since.
That is what it's for to help people when they need it
There are many who need it now and either can't find work because there's not much out there, or they turn their nose up at what's available, because they can.

 

Are you suggesting they cut it off for people who can't find work . There are very few jobs atm, the unemployment figure is 6.3%
in your era there were plenty of jobs. If you couldn't get a job should they have cut off your's too.
Because they can live ok on the dole. Or, like Man Monis, they can pocket welfare, run an undeclared business and sprout hate speech against the hand that feeds him.
I don't know anyone would be happy living on $515 a fortnight, do you?
Man monos was a criminal in Iraq and here too, he was also a madman. Cross references should've been made so he was picked up earlier, I do not think that most people who are on benefits are the same as him


I find that to be bizarre to be honest

Of course you do.



 

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Sorry about the blue writing everyone. I hate it myself but too fiddly to alter it on an ipad Woman Indifferent

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Well, Deb. I was going to comment then my eyes glazed over Smiley LOL Fully expecting a bit of red font soon.

Posting cute animal pics is easier lol.

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@debra9275 wrote:

@icyfroth wrote:

@debra9275 wrote:
Do you get that information from the murdoch press icy?
No those are my own words from my own observations and experiences.
Do you live in a particularly low socio-economic area to make those observations?
You needed it once and you don't believe people need it now?
I needed it once then got a job and haven't needed it since.
That is what it's for to help people when they need it
There are many who need it now and either can't find work because there's not much out there, or they turn their nose up at what's available, because they can.
Are you suggesting they cut it off for people who can't find work . There are very few jobs atm, the unemployment figure is 6.3%
in your era there were plenty of jobs. If you couldn't get a job should they have cut off your's too.
Because they can live ok on the dole. Or, like Man Monis, they can pocket welfare, run an undeclared business and sprout hate speech against the hand that feeds him.
I don't know anyone would be happy living on $515 a fortnight, do you?
Man monos was a criminal in Iraq and here too, he was also a madman. Cross references should've been made so he was picked up earlier, I do not rethink that most people who are on benefits are the same as him


I find that to be bizarre to be honest

Of course you do.


"in your era there were plenty of jobs. If you couldn't get a job should they have cut off your's too."
Did you read the bit where I said " I needed it once then got a job and haven't needed it since."?
"I don't know anyone would be happy living on $515 a fortnight, do you?"
No but it can be done. Especially by young ppl who are living with their parents.

 

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