Bali 9 pair get 72-hour execution notice on Anzac Day

[ufo_investigations]

http://www.news.com.au/national/bali-nine-pair-get-72-hour-execution-notice/story-fncynjr2-122732076...

[debra9275]

I don't agree with the executions, I think it's just horrible ( and they are facing it bravely)

I also think wars are horrible, that's really the only comparison I can make

[icyfroth]

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@*pepe wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@debra9275 wrote:

why you ask???

because our soldiers died fighting for our country, and these two men are unfortunately being executed in a foreign country.

For trying to smuggle drugs out of that country and into theirs (ours).

 because so many patriotic  Australian young men VOLUNTEERED to fight for our country does not mean they gave up their lives willingly

I'm pretty sure they did not have in mind that they were volunteering so that they could be killed

how you can even draw a comparison between an execution and soldiers fighting for their country I have no idea

You're right. There's no comparison. Yet I'd like to think these young men about to be executed will go with the same resolve and courage, and with reflection on their past lives and the effect their deeds have had on others, for better or for worse.

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ok, you've lost me now because in this post you are drawing a comparison.

there is nothing even similar or courageous about the death these two are facing compared to the deaths of soldiers defending their country.

My apologies Debra.

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lol did you suddenly remember you can't make sense out of the majority of my posts as stated in one of your posts recently?

I'm not trying to draw a comparison between the soldiers that died in Gallipolli campaign and the 2 young men about to be executied. There is none.

The former died of deeds for their country, the latter for deeds against their country and against the laws of a foreign country.

What I did say was that the execution of these young Australians, while regrettable in the light of the rehabiltion they have undergone, pales into insignificance compared to the sacrifices Australians made in WW! alone. And that's not just the soldiers. It's the mothers, the wives, the children that were orphaned.

[debra9275]

so you're not saying that the executions "Kind of pale into insignificance" because it was announced on Anzac Day then??

Ok

[*pepe]

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@*pepe wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@debra9275 wrote:

why you ask???

because our soldiers died fighting for our country, and these two men are unfortunately being executed in a foreign country.

For trying to smuggle drugs out of that country and into theirs (ours).

 because so many patriotic  Australian young men VOLUNTEERED to fight for our country does not mean they gave up their lives willingly

I'm pretty sure they did not have in mind that they were volunteering so that they could be killed

how you can even draw a comparison between an execution and soldiers fighting for their country I have no idea

You're right. There's no comparison. Yet I'd like to think these young men about to be executed will go with the same resolve and courage, and with reflection on their past lives and the effect their deeds have had on others, for better or for worse.

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ok, you've lost me now because in this post you are drawing a comparison.

there is nothing even similar or courageous about the death these two are facing compared to the deaths of soldiers defending their country.

My apologies Debra.

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lol did you suddenly remember you can't make sense out of the majority of my posts as stated in one of your posts recently?

I'm not trying to draw a comparison between the soldiers that died in Gallipolli campaign and the 2 young men about to be executied. There is none.

The former died of deeds for their country, the latter for deeds against their country and against the laws of a foreign country.

What I did say was that the execution of these young Australians, while regrettable in the light of the rehabiltion they have undergone, pales into insignificance compared to the sacrifices Australians made in WW! alone. And that's not just the soldiers. It's the mothers, the wives, the children that were orphaned.

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actually i think it was you who said you don't understand any of my posts, i said i understood some of yours but not all...

you seemed to have two different stances on this matter in this thread, I agreed with what I thought you were saying in the first post but not in this quoted post.

you actually are drawing a comparison by saying you hope these 2 men go with the same resolve and courage as the soldiers.

[icyfroth]

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debra9275 wrote:

so you're not saying that the executions "Kind of pale into insignificance" because it was announced on Anzac Day then??

Ok

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No.

The date of announcement is immaterial. To me, at least. Although I agree the Indons may have deliberately delayed it to announce on our ANZAC day for effect. Which is cruel IMO.

Whatever day, the execution of two drug smugglers, while regrettable in light of the rehabilitation theyve undertaken, certainly pales into insignificance when we take into account the young men who willingly laid their lives on the line in the service of our country.

I don't know how many times I have to repeat that?

[debra9275]

ok  I get you

to me the announcement on Anzac Day was pretty poor, almost like they're trying to make it as painful for Australia as possible, but that's just my opinion

I was starting to think that may have been what you thought too

[bright.ton42]

No you don't have to repeat it,  I think your message is loud and clear, lol.

[icyfroth]

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@*pepe wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@*pepe wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@debra9275 wrote:

why you ask???

because our soldiers died fighting for our country, and these two men are unfortunately being executed in a foreign country.

For trying to smuggle drugs out of that country and into theirs (ours).

 because so many patriotic  Australian young men VOLUNTEERED to fight for our country does not mean they gave up their lives willingly

I'm pretty sure they did not have in mind that they were volunteering so that they could be killed

how you can even draw a comparison between an execution and soldiers fighting for their country I have no idea

You're right. There's no comparison. Yet I'd like to think these young men about to be executed will go with the same resolve and courage, and with reflection on their past lives and the effect their deeds have had on others, for better or for worse.

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ok, you've lost me now because in this post you are drawing a comparison.

there is nothing even similar or courageous about the death these two are facing compared to the deaths of soldiers defending their country.

My apologies Debra.

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lol did you suddenly remember you can't make sense out of the majority of my posts as stated in one of your posts recently?

I'm not trying to draw a comparison between the soldiers that died in Gallipolli campaign and the 2 young men about to be executied. There is none.

The former died of deeds for their country, the latter for deeds against their country and against the laws of a foreign country.

What I did say was that the execution of these young Australians, while regrettable in the light of the rehabiltion they have undergone, pales into insignificance compared to the sacrifices Australians made in WW! alone. And that's not just the soldiers. It's the mothers, the wives, the children that were orphaned.

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actually i think it was you who said you don't understand any of my posts, i said i understood some of yours but not all...

I agree with this line. I'm still not getting your conundrum with the rest of my post as quoted above.

you seemed to have two different stances on this matter in this thread, I agreed with what I thought you were saying in the first post but not in this quoted post.

you actually are drawing a comparison by saying you hope these 2 men go with the same resolve and courage as the soldiers.

Actually, I think they will.

That doesn't mean I'd compare the execution of 2 drug smugglers as significant  to Australia as the death of 10s of 1000s of young men who were prepared to die for their fellow Australians. 

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[poddster]

How astute you are VP:)

[the_great_she_elephant]

To be honest, Debra, I doubt whether the Indonesians gave any thought whatsoever to the fact that it was ANZAC Day - why would they, it has no significence for them.  I think that, all avenues of appeal being finally closed, they simply set a date for the execution and gave the convicted drug smugglers and their familes 72 hours notice of that date, as they were obliged to under Indonesian law.