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silverfaun
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I'ts interesting that many on here are still defending Labor & their failed policies even when it's staring them in the face that their beloved party is so on the nose even their own MP's are making fun of the impending cliff Labor are going over on Sept 14th.


 


Another quirk of the luvvies is they are now doing a 360degree turn to attack the Conservatives even before they get in.


 


There's not so much as a whimper about the  failure of Labor in 99% of all their  endeavours but they are turning their hate & despair onto the right in blind anger that this is what it has come to for them.


 


Nothing about the total failure of border protection or the destruction of exports & Gillard goes along leading the party to complete  annihilation & all her little men happily going over the cliff with her.


 


This is the first time in political Australia that everyone knows the result of what is facing Federal Labor before an election, there's no hope or glimmer of hope for many MP's. Not taking into account State wipe outs labor has self engineered.


 


Gillard is still trying to ram through myriad legislation in the dying days of her govt, giving out 800 million Green loans to rent seekers whilst ignoring the complete failure of their major policies like Gonski, NDIS, borders & now the deadly carcase of the NBN.


 


Shorten now openly touted as the next leader (God help them) but Gillard is ignoring the surrender of our borders whilst visiting the very young in schools like there's nothing wrong.


 


It's gone past farcical & turned tragic.


 


 

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"the deadly carcase of the NBN" :^O   Just a tad dramatic there OP.


 


Good to see you accept that the Government has done well in at least 1% of their endeavours, have you turned ?

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I thought I'd slipped behind the dark side of the moon when I saw this, I was stunned that the man in black, the puffed up pontificating guru,  wrote this article.


 


PM intent on leading Labor over the cliff:


 


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/opinion/pm-bent-on-leading-alp-over-the-abyss/story-e6frgd0x-1226656501382

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Julia Gillard's strongest supporter declares Labor 'in more trouble than Indiana Jones'


 


 


And another directly warned the Prime Minister "we're dead" in key seats unless she personally stepped up the fight on asylum seeker policy.


 


In the wake of a new round of grim opinion polls showing Labor faced a wipeout, former PM Kevin Rudd said the "conversation" among his colleagues was that "it's very, very tough".


Some MPs have urged Mr Rudd to make one last tilt at the leadership, but his office said he had "completely ruled himself out in March" because there was not overwhelming support for him.


 


Labor MPs said there was despair about the count-down to the election, as they continued to be divided about what to do.


 


Some of Mr Rudd's past supporters said they would not support him again after he failed to stand for a ballot in March.


 


Others want former minister and Rudd supporter Chris Bowen to challenge Ms Gillard.


Senior figures said while nothing could be ruled out, they believed Ms Gillard would lead Labor to the election unless her strongest supporters, such as Bill Shorten and Wayne Swan, made a shock decision to change their position.


 


Ms Gillard told Parliament it was "entirely untrue" that Foreign Affairs Minister Bob Carr has urged her to stand down


 


Queensland MP Graham Perrett, who faces defeat in his marginal Brisbane seat, said he was sticking by Ms Gillard but Labor faced a huge challenge.


 


"We are in more trouble than Indiana Jones," Mr Perrett said.


 


 


Sydney MP Laurie Ferguson, whom Ms Gillard saved in a preselection battle, delivered the PM an ultimatum about asylum seeker boats at yesterday's Caucus meetings.


 


"Unless you personally get out there and campaign on boats ... we're dead," he said.


 


Mr Ferguson later told the Herald Sun Ms Gillard had "shown a lot of guts as a shadow minister" on asylum seeker policy, and she needed to do it again.


 


Record boat arrivals were overshadowing Labor's good news about education, disability and the economy, especially in western Sydney, he said.


 


We've got to indicate it is a concern to her and the Government. A lot of people have been hopeful the issue won't be a concern to voters on election day and have run away from it," Mr Ferguson said. "I don't think we can.


 


"We've got to go full frontal on it," he said.


 


Ms Gillard also faced questions in the party room from Mr Rudd and former ministers Martin Ferguson and Joel Fitzgibbon about the controversial 457 visa crackdown


 


Mr Fitzgibbon also caused a stir when he appeared on Channel 7's Sunrise program, laughing and mocking the "party line" on how to respond to polls.


 


"I just brought the manual with me," he said.


 


"I'll see what it says.


 


"It says I should say, 'Polls come and go, and the only poll that matters is on election day'."


 


More here http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/julia-gillards-strongest-supporter-declares-labor-in-more-trouble-than-indiana-jones/story-fni0fiyv-1226657318942


 


Labor cuts its losses


 


by Phillip Hudson


 


LABOR appears to have written off its chances of winning Victoria's three most marginal seats by slashing financial support for the election campaign as it desperately tries to devote limited resources to safer seats at risk of being lost.


 


Senior figures said the decision to switch money away from Corangamite, Deakin and La Trobe had come after federal plans to increase funding for political parties by $58 million collapsed amid public anger.


 


It has forced Labor to re-think every dollar of spending as party officials do not want to go into debt.


 


News of the decision came after an exclusive JWS Research/Herald Sun poll showed Labor facing a 15.4 per cent swing in the normally safe seat of Isaacs in the outer southeastern suburbs.


 


There is also concern about neighbouring seats Holt and Bruce, and the seats of Bendigo and McEwen.


 


Former prime minister Kevin Rudd will campaign in Geelong on Friday for two loyal local Labor MPs, Richard Marles and Darren Cheeseman.


 


In a move to shore up the collapsing vote, Mr Rudd will tour Australia's most marginal seat, Corangamite, and Corio.


 


Both MPs have backed Mr Rudd to take over the leadership from Julia Gillard.


 


Mr Marles yesterday denied the Rudd visit was a slap in the face for Ms Gillard, who stood next to both local MPs in recent days to announce Geelong as the national headquarters of DisabilityCare.


 


Victorian ALP state secretary Noah Carroll last night declined to comment on where money would be spent.


 


"The Labor Party will be fighting in every seat in Victoria," Mr Carroll said.


 


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/julia-gillards-strongest-supporter-declares-labor-in-more-trouble-than-indiana-jones/story-fni0fiyv-1226657318942


 


and the poll on  the story above


 


 


Does Julia Gillard have any chance of winning the election?


 


Yes 8.96% (203 votes)


 


No 91.04% (2062 votes)

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Australians don't know how lucky they are


A leadership threat to Julia Gillard seemed churlish, given the strong economy – but disgruntled Australians are a common breed


Paola Totaro 


guardian.co.uk, Friday 22 March 2013 05.00 AEST


 


Australia's prime minister, Julia Gillard, holds conference at Parliament House in Canberra. Photograph: Daniel Munoz/Reuters


Last June, Australia celebrated its 21st. No, not a birthday or coming of age, but the completion of its 21st consecutive year of economic growth. Yup, you heard right, 21 years. Of growth. 21.


While the rest of the world lurches from crisis to economic crisis, the land of Oz is powering ahead, enjoying an Aussie dollar at a record high, unemployment at near-record lows (5.4%) and basking in more sunshine than the rest of us can dream up. So what does its Labor government do? Attempt suicide.


Yesterday's move to oust Australia's Labor prime minister, Julia Gillard, represents the third attempt by Kevin Rudd (and/or his supporters) to return him to the leadership – a man Gillard beat for the prime ministership in 2010. In the past 10 years, the Australian Labor party has installed and dispatched five national leaders while its nemesis, the Liberal party, has tried four different leaders in just six years.


Viewed from Europe, where national governments are planning to bail out their banks by raiding the savings accounts not just of Russian oligarchs but pensioners too, news of yet another political attack against Australia's leader smacks of a particular strain of antipodean madness. For decades, it is the British who have worn the "whingeing Poms" label. Now, it's time for Australians to accept the malcontents' mantle, because it is they who appear incapable of seeing just how lucky they are.


Complaint has become the national default position, seen in a political class – and a mainstream media – who spend more time slinging mud or knifing each other than debating and analysing national policy. No other advanced economy can come close to Australia's 21 years of growth. That period, a full generation, saw governments of both political flavours at the helm in Canberra, and is even more impressive when you remember that it spanned the dotcom boom (and bust), the crisis of 1997-1998 (remember that one?) and the global catastrophe that was the Lehman Brothers crash in 2008. Every single time, opposition parties (again of both persuasions) channelled Chicken Little, warning the sky would fall down in Australia. It didn't. It still hasn't.


Things are so damned good that the Reserve Bank is worried the strength of the national currency is harming national export markets. Aussie voters happily travel with more money in their pockets than ever before, and still they grouch about wavering national confidence, or rail against the couple of hundred sad souls who land on their shores seeking asylum.


The world over, economists talk about "the Australian model". I've sat through enough press conferences in Europe to know that there are many learned bean counters who see this continent as a great example of just how to exploit and thrive in a tumultuous global environment where economic might is turning its eyes toward Asia.


There's a chorus of voices that argue that Australia's success is a role model not only for resource-rich emerging markets like Chile and Brazil but also for many other already developed nations navigating low growth and burgeoning unemployment.


Nobody would quibble with the reality that Australia has also been lucky, riding the back of a massive boom in global commodity markets – thank you China and your seemingly insatiable appetite for iron ore. Without doubt, Australia's bubble could burst if the Chinese market and global commodity prices were to crash.


But the fact is, Australia has shown resilience in the past – and this is largely due to good economic policy. Aussie banks have been managed conservatively; none have failed, no taxpayer bail-outs have been needed. There has been no Euro-style printing of money, no pushing of interest rates down to the historic lows we have seen in the UK. The Australian government, despite public brouhaha, has held its nerve, continuing to invest and stimulating the economy to keep it aloft. At5.40%, the unemployment rate – one of the lowest in the industrialised world – is half that of Europe, never mind the horrendous 20% seen in Greece, Spain or Italy. And all the while, Australia's government debt has been chipped at: surpluses have been delivered and real money squirrelled away to tide the nation through bad times.


Surely, this should deliver government on its own. But not in Oz. Instead, Labor allowed itself to be spooked by another bad opinion poll for Gillard, the epidemic of political dread fanned by a plethora of male radio shock jocks, and a largely hostile parliamentary commentariat. And once again, it turned to sharpening the knives.


There is, of course, one thing that's going badly in Oz. But at least the Australian cricket team is standing by their captain.


• This article was amended on 22 March 2013. It previously referred to asylum seekers arriving "illegally" – that word has been removed. It also moved an incorrect reference to a 2% budget surplus. A sentence which implied that yesterday's attempt to remove Gillard was instigated by Kevin Rudd has been amended to clarify that it is the third attempt by either himself or his supporters to do so.


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Australians: the new whingers?



 


 


...It would seem, given all this, that Australians have developed an insatiable appetite for the good times, an easy life, and overall ingratiating entitlement. What’s really disturbing is the culture of melodramatic complaint, even when it is not justified or informed. An interesting exercise would be to gather a group of Australians who complain about the current government’s economic management, and see how many of them could explain how the economy works. If, then, Australia is a nation of mostly uninformed whingers, then the Australian media must bear some of the blame. The nightly orgy of pettiness which is the evening news in Australian cities seems to steer political debate in Canberra. Scandalous outrage is the order of the day, and in the absence of a reasonably popular and informed alternative, this discourse is lapped up unchallenged by the ignorant masses.  Nor is politics itself free from blame – Capital Hill is currently presided over by some of the most uninspiring and forgettable talking heads in history.


 


 


 


The statesmanship of the 1970s and 1990s, which divided but also inspired and built a nation, has given way to muckraking of the worst kind – the inconsequential kind. It would be so easy for one leader to take charge and inspire the nation again – against the current backdrop, they would have the public feeding out of their hands. And yet, no one does.


 


 


 


As Australia heads towards a federal election this September, there will no doubt be the usual lightweight political footballs bandied around; tax breaks, funding increases, welfare payments, bad economy, good economy, the Australian dollar. Instead of being grateful that the banks are still open, there will be the usual complaints about how “this country is going to the dogs”. And amid all of that will be an absence of real and meaningful political debate about important issues – like how to get Australia’s literacy rate up to that of, say, Azerbaijan’s, Tajikistan’s, or Armenia’s (all higher than Australia’s in 2010). Or maybe even how to really save the environment – with or without a tax.


 


 


read in full http://urbanduniya.com/news-and-opinion/australians-the-new-whingers/

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Australians unhappier than 'whingeing Pom' BritsAustralians have been forced to abandon their traditional taunting of Britons as “whingeing Poms” after a survey found they were less happy despite enjoying growing wealth and a much stronger economy.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/9971290/Australians-unhap...


 


The Telegraph UK

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It seems as though all the whinging may be making us Aussies look bad and stupid overseas ?

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Is this topic BOMBING and flooding of a post by  izabsmiling  .. It sure looks like


 


Calculated topic BOMBING by this member

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The OP title is before and after the Labor Disaster NW.


 


what is topic bombing and does that apply do you believe the the boards (ie;threads) ?


 


 

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