@izabsmiling wrote:
@**meep** wrote:
@izabsmiling wrote:
No Meep, I will not show you .That has been done many times in the past .The link was added as reference re terminology for us .So many very obvious deflections from the real issues or rather what we have been being told are our real issues
But that's the thing, Iza. It hasn't. Every time you made that claim, you have only provided a link to that illegal boats count. Illegal boats = illegal arrivals. There is nothing illegal about that term, according to law experts on refugees.
you can search as I did ...Tony Abbott calls asylum seekers illegal.I will add a few links .In one Tony Abbott says it is illegal to get on a boat and arrive in another Country without papers .I agree....however if it is for the purpose of seeking asylum ..arriving by boat ,without papers is not illegal is it because seeking asylum isn't illegal is it ?
http://www.abc.net.au/local/audio/2013/08/27/3834928.htm
Tony Abbott questioned on East West Link, terming asylum seekers 'illegal' on Drive with Rafael Epstein
Leader of the Opposition Tony Abbott joins Rafael Epstein and takes talkback, fielding questions on his support for the East West Link and on why he labels asylum seekers 'illegal'
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-07/abbott-says-asylum-seeker-arrivals-now-50000-under-labor/48715...
Tony Abbott says 'illegal' arrivals by boat have reached 50,000 under Labor; Tony Burke defends new policy
Updated Wed 7 Aug 2013, 9:50pm AEST
Opposition Leader Tony Abbott has described as a "terrible milestone" the 50,000 "illegal" arrivals by boat since Labor won office in 2007.
Abbott called on 'illegal' slur
Martini you may be interested in this
MONDAY morning’s news is the government’s solution to asylum seekers: keep it secret!
Do you notice a pattern emerging? Malcolm Fraser managed to bring thousands of Vietnamese asylum seekers into Australia on a bipartisan agreement with Gough Whitlam, despite over 60 per cent of the population being against it; simply because it was the right thing to do.
John Howard realised he could tap into that 60 per cent and win an election with the children overboard lie. He then went on to courageously send in the SAS troops against the asylum seekers on the Tampa. ( I was more ashamed to be an Australian during this incident, than at any other time.)
Abbott learned from this, and ramped the rhetoric up further, deliberately demonising the asylum seekers by calling them illegal immigrants, even though he knew they were mostly not illegal immigrants, and by far, most of our illegal immigrants come by air. (Does this demonising of our most vulnerable people remind you of anybody?)
read more:http://www.northerndailyleader.com.au/story/1796260/do-you-notice-a-pattern-emerging-under-tony-abbo...
Still cant find where, as you claimed, Tony Abbott called asylum seekers "illegals" or "illegal immigrants"
From your link:
"I don't call them illegal immigrants," says Tony Abbott. "I call them illegal arrivals by boat."
Article 31 - Refugees unlawfully in the country of refuge
1. The Contracting States shall not impose penalties, on account of their illegal entry or presence, on refugees who, coming directly from a territory where their life or freedom was threatened in the sense of article 1, enter or are present in their territory without authorization, provided they present themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their illegal entry or presence.
I recall we initially had this discussion when AP Stylebook was making changes to describe people who lived in a country illegally.
The Stylebook no longer sanctions the term “illegal immigrant” or the use of “illegal” to describe a person. Instead, it tells users that “illegal” should describe only an action, such as living in or immigrating to a country illegaly.
That's how this whole argument began? Wasn't it?
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