Boycott Bali

[idlewhile]

If the horrific murder of two Australians is carried out then we should boycott Bali and all things Indonesian.

We gave over a $billion dollars to this country after the tsunami, we prop then up with foreign aid and they spit in our faces.

They have  ignored all diplomatic attempts to mitigate their sentences and Watta a Joko has now signed the order to send them to the "killing Island" wouldn't want to kill them on Bali now would they, might upset the tourism business.

I'm appalled and disgusted, scared and frightened for these men and heartsick for their families.

[azureline**]

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@siggie-reported-by-alarmists wrote:

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@azureline** wrote:

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@siggie-reported-by-alarmists wrote:

"that these guys knew the laws in Indonesia, they broke them and now must face the consequences"

What part of that sentence can anyone disagree with?

People believing that they can pick and choose the consequences of their actions is naive.

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Is anyone disagreeing with that?

I think most are trying to find a way to stop it because they don't agree with the death penalty.

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   By claiming they should not be executed, is trying to pick and choose their consequences.

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I disagree..................

Stating we are against the death penalty is our right.

In contrast, Mr Abbotts reference to financial support in Indonesia is completely unacceptable, makes me feel ill.

[gleee58]

Everything in life can't just be split into left or right.

It's most bizarre to see supposed adult trying to categorize everything into left and right.   It's not.

Some people oppose the death penalty, others don't and some are still not so sure about the death penalty and think it's ok for some crimes and not for others.  Opinion is not divided into left and right, regardless of how much you need to make it so.

[bluecat*dancing]

Exactly. I  have even agreed with Alan Jones which is something that I don't think that I have ever done before. So, because Jones is against  the execution of these young men, does that make him a leftie or have the lefties suddenly become righties? Most confuddling.

[azureline**]

"Australia's efforts to seek a stay of execution and a reconsideration of the clemency bids of Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran are consistent with the Indonesian government's own efforts on behalf of its death row prisoners overseas," Ms Bishop said.

"I call on the Indonesian government to offer the same mercy to Australian citizens it is pursuing for its own nationals, including those convicted of drug offences."

The Foreign Affairs Minister will introduce a parliamentary motion on the issue on Thursday.

The 229 Indonesian citizens on death row, whom Mr Joko has vowed to do his utmost to protect, have been sentenced to death for murder and drug charges.

The Indonesian government last year negotiated to pay "blood money" to save the life of an Indonesian domestic worker charged with the murder of her employer in Saudi Arabia.

Foreign Minister Retno LP Marsudi said on Tuesday that Mr Joko had instructed officials to give "optimum protection and attention" to death row convicts overseas.

"We are committed to showing the state's presence in the form of legal advocacy and other assistance to those facing death row," she was quoted saying in The Jakarta Post.

The media organisation said many Indonesian workers, mostly from Aceh, have been prosecuted in Malaysian courts for trafficking drugs and marijuana to the neighbouring country and many death row convicts have been already executed

[idlewhile]

Under this hypocrite we will witness to his production line of slaughter of international prisoners  in Indonesia.

He must be called out on it and everything that can be done must be done. Why can't he deport these prisoners back to their own country for sentence? no he won't because he ran on the politial ticket of murdering these people, what civilised country does that?

We must withdraw the $605 million given to this corrupt nation, most of it landing in the pockets of those at the top.

[siggie-reported-by-alarmists]

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@idlewhile wrote:

Under this hypocrite we will witness to his production line of slaughter of international prisoners  in Indonesia.

He must be called out on it and everything that can be done must be done. Why can't he deport these prisoners back to their own country for sentence? no he won't because he ran on the politial ticket of murdering these people, what civilised country does that?

We must withdraw the $605 million given to this corrupt nation, most of it landing in the pockets of those at the top.

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   What rubbish.

   You don't seem to know how Australia helps Indonesia.

[polksaladallie]

Or why.

[siggie-reported-by-alarmists]

"During 2013-14, thanks to Australian aid in Indonesia:

More than 97,000 births were attended by skilled birth attendants

1,734 classrooms were built or upgraded

and more than 234,000 students were provided with financial or nutritional supports

296 kilometers of roads were constructed, 

rehabilitated or maintained and more than 2.8 million poor women and men received

access to social transfers such as cash or food

More than 494,000 people were provided with increased access to safe water and more than 69,000 with increased access to basic

sanitation."

Just as a quick overview!

Time to see the bigger picture Idle.

[siggie-reported-by-alarmists]

Australia Indonesia Partnership for Maternal and Neonatal Health (AIPMNH) $81.5 million, 2009-2015AIPMNH works with village

health clinics and hospitals in Nusa Tenggara Timur, supporting improved access, quality and demand for maternal and newborn

health services. We support the province and its districts to increase the proportion of births in adequate health facilities, make

maternal and newborn health higher priorities in annual district budgets and improve the management of health clinics’ operational

budgets and health and birth insurance.The program also helps to build community awareness of the services available at health

facilities. Close to 180,000 pregnant women and 139,000 babies benefited from this program during the period between 2009 and

2013. The program has contributed to a 35 per cent reduction in maternal deaths in the province between 2009 and 2013, when the

national maternal mortality ratio has increased.

How many lives have benefited above Idle....... but you say stuff em, take away the money.....two Aussie crims might be executed.

[idlewhile]

Indonsia is a very wealthy country with millions more people than Australia.

They are corrupt and we are furthering their corruptin by giving them aid when they can well afford to care and educate their own people.

Aid is a carrot and stick thing, we  simply can't go on "forever" propping up a country much wealthier than ours which has huge assets if nothing is done about the corruption.

The vacuuming of money to the top whilst the bottom have to rely on aid from us, stop it, let China step in, they are much closer to China  in ideolgy than us.