29-12-2013 08:06 PM - edited 29-12-2013 08:08 PM
To funny
But then it could be the Bondi winds and Australian climate change thats caused this..... Or maybe it was the Bogans.....
HHmmm better put a carbon tax on the Antarctic
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2013 was a big year for ice with global sea ice hitting or nearing record highs.
A dramatic example caught the attention of the world Christmas morning, when a vessel hired by group of global warming scientists radioed for help after becoming trapped in ice off Antarctica.
The Russian m/v Akademik Shokalskiy has 74 researchers and crew aboard and they managed to celebrate Christmas despite their frozen predicament.
Chris Turney, who is a professor of climate change at the University of New South Wales, is the leader of the expedition He posted a video to Youtube optimistically predicting that Snow Dragon would reach his position within a few hours, but the ice breaker was forced to turn back. -
Other vessels are headed to the scene and Snow Dragon is waiting and hoping that high winds will push aside some of the ten foot thick ice enabling it to reach the trapped researchers.
The waters around Antarctica experienced remarkable sea ice expansion in 2013 confounding the global warming ice narrative.
Global warming campaigners have been stymied by the lack of any temperature increase in the major temperature data sets since the nineties. (but the alarmist here in Australia and on this forum continue with the scare campaign thats proving to be a huge LIE)
They’ve tried to compensate by feeding the media a steady stream of “extreme weather” stories and with shrill claims about polar ice.
However, historical and scientific data shows today’s weather to be normal.
2013 was in fact particularly tame by many standards with no hurricanes making landfall in the U.S. and data on droughts, fires heat wave, floods, etc. all coming in at or below average.
The global warming campaign seized on northern sea ice in an attempt to find some evidence to show warming.
Northern ice has had a few sparse years recently. Al Gore told COP 15, the UN climate conference in Copenhagen, that the North Pole could be “completely ice free” within five to seven years.
However, 2013 did not cooperate with that narrative either, as northern ice expanded over 50 percent above 2012 levels.
Yachts and research vessels attempting to make news by transiting the Northwest Passage became trapped in the ice and their attempts had to be abandoned. See, Gullible green sailors trapped in the Arctic.
Likewise, alarmist claims about polar bears have run afoul of the facts as polar bear populations continue to expand and
thrive. -
Climate scientists and pressure groups have enjoyed remarkable success at seeing their press statements about polar bears and polar ice reproduced by a compliant media without balance or question.
The information age, however, has granted the public direct access to the unvarnished facts in unprecedented ways.
Web services, such as CFACT’s Climate Depot and social media, publish the data the media ignores.
Global warming hype can’t hold up under the scrutiny.
When the warming crowd attributes fluctuations in northern ice to human activity without basis, and then turns around and blames southern ice expansion on nature, the unbiased observer can’t help but but wonder whether nature is driving both.
Temperature records compiled by NASA, NOAA and the UK Met Office all show no global warming since the nineties, some cooling and very little warming before that.
Climate computer models call for substantial warming which has not occurred. Is the unbiased observer truly to conclude that while nature rules the south, summer northern sea ice will be no more because 2008, for example, was 0.4 degrees above average? This is a classic case of a divorce between correlation and causation, and correlation is no longer looking very good.
Hysterical claims about polar ice are a propaganda talking point aimed to keep the global warming narrative flowing, absent any… well, global warming.
The public continues to catch on.
How long will the legacy media keep reprinting baseless warming claims, without critical examination, when they defy actual data?
Will embarrassing images of yachts and research vessels trapped in ice, which failed to diminish as predicted, help snap the media out of it?
- See more at: http://www.cfact.org/2013/12/28/antarctic-ice-blocks-ice-breaker-sent-to-rescue-climate-researchers-...
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on 30-12-2013 01:33 PM
those are all links in regard to the northern hemisphere
last time i looked antarctica was in the southern hemisphere ?
you need to read someone who actually knows where antarctica is , andrew seems to have some difficulty with that .
on 30-12-2013 01:38 PM
Wow that James taylor Forbes contributor sure does love his other publication The heartland Institute which loves all the money that Phillip Morris pays it to defend smoking.
on 30-12-2013 01:39 PM
thats a bad error
on 30-12-2013 01:39 PM
This is why they add salt to iced up roads and footpaths
http://chemistry.about.com/od/howthingsworkfaqs/f/how-does-salt-melt-ice.htm
Answer: Salt melts ice essentially because adding salt lowers the freezing point of the water. How does this melt ice? Well, it doesn't, unless there is a little water available with the ice. The good news is you don't need a pool of water to achieve the effect. Ice typically is coated with a thin film of liquid water, which is all it takes.
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The ice ON Antartica is disappearing at an increasing and alarming rate.
The ice that melts from the continent Antartica is currently fresh water ie it melts from glaciers.It does this because the land that constitutes Antartica is warming at a greater rate than the surrounding Sea Ice
The Sea ice is primarily salt water. Fresh water freezes at a higher temperature as compared salt sea water.
Therefore the Sea ice is increasing because as both waters blend (fresh and salt) the freezing point temperature of the
blend that constitutes the new sea ice also increases.
There is much too saltwater gloabally to allow the fresh to dilute into it. It freezes before it leaves the antartic ice pack
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So what is really happening in the Antarctic?
The short answer is that the ice around Antarctica is growing, but the ice on the continent is shrinking, and both are a result of climate change. Just how much it's changing and how fast depends on where you look.
In some parts of the continent, the Antarctic ice is melting just as rapidly as the ice in the Arctic Circle. In fact, the Antarctic peninsula, which juts into the Southern Ocean, was one of the earliest climate change "hot spots", where rapid warming caused enormous segments of glaciers to break off into the ocean. In a recent study in the journal Nature Geoscience, new ice core data from James Ross Island, located at the northern tip of the peninsula, shows that warming on the peninsula has reached its highest rate in 1,000 years.
Perhaps the most confusing detail - the growth of sea ice around Antarctica - is also a direct response to climate change, said Andrew Carleton, professor of physical geography at Penn State University. Despite the warming climate, sea ice surrounding the continent has increased about one percent every decade between 1979 and 2008, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center.
It seems counter intuitive, but that growth is a result of the glacial melt happening on the rest of the continent, Carleton said. As fresh water melts into the ocean it decreases the salinity of the seawater, he explained. Water with less salt content freezes at a higher temperature, so even with warming air temperatures melting the glaciers, the Antarctic Ocean continues to gain sea ice.
"It seems paradoxical, but it makes sense," Carleton said.
on 30-12-2013 01:41 PM
@para-sights wrote:Wow that James taylor Forbes contributor sure does love his other publication The heartland Institute which loves all the money that Phillip Morris pays it to defend smoking.
thats right, the body that lobbies to keep us all puffing on cigarettes is one in the same, a paid lobby group, heartland (or heartdiseaseland as it is alternatively known)
on 30-12-2013 01:49 PM
Nero Wulf Wrote
To funny
But then it could be the Bondi winds and Australian climate change thats caused this..... Or maybe it was the Bogans.....
HHmmm better put a carbon tax on the Antarctic
that's some ways for a person to fight logic .
how embarrassment
on 30-12-2013 02:14 PM
@lakeland27 wrote:those are all links in regard to the northern hemisphere
last time i looked antarctica was in the southern hemisphere ?
you need to read someone who actually knows where antarctica is , andrew seems to have some difficulty with that .
Not to mention they do not say the arctic will be ice free. They say the arctic MAY be ice free in some summers.
They are not scientific research papers either.
on 30-12-2013 02:26 PM
@freakiness wrote:
@lakeland27 wrote:those are all links in regard to the northern hemisphere
last time i looked antarctica was in the southern hemisphere ?
you need to read someone who actually knows where antarctica is , andrew seems to have some difficulty with that .
Not to mention they do not say the arctic will be ice free. They say the arctic MAY be ice free in some summers.
They are not scientific research papers either.
thats possibly why they all seem to have gone missing from the thread
on 30-12-2013 03:03 PM
Seriously people.........
I made reference to the Arctic.............and well done LL......it is in the Northern Hemisphere........
*sigh*.......
Poor Alarmists........
Follow this........ Arctic..........North
Antarctic.....South.......
on 30-12-2013 03:05 PM
it seems its you lot that missed it
i reccomend some further study