on 31-05-2020 10:33 AM
Hundreds of demonstrators across Australia have broken social distancing rules to protest against vaccinations, 5G and the coronavirus pandemic.
Protesters gathered at the Royal Botanic Gardens in Melbourne on Saturday and claimed the global COVID-19 health crisis was a 'scam'.
There are more than five-million cases of coronavirus cases across the globe and at least 350,000 people have died. Australia has recorded more than 7,000 infections and the death toll sits at 103 following the successful implementation of social distancing restrictions.
Brazen demonstrators also carried signs declaring they were against vaccines and 5G technology.
Lol @ the anti-virus shields on the horses
on 07-09-2020 09:32 PM
'The thinking person's approach to the issue'
Which involves protests in disregard to the current situation. Hardly a thinking person's approach.
Of course, if they think that COVID is a scam and that they think health restrictions shouldn't apply to them and if they think all goverments are fascist, they could be correct.
But then if they actually thought about society rather than themselves...
Discuss.
on 07-09-2020 09:53 PM
* I was taking note of what icyfroth said about forced vaccination / people being vaccinated against their will.
* Many protesters do not think Corona Virus is a scam.
* With a PM saying that he wants to make vaccination as mandatory as possible has made people very concerned.
* I have the belief that if people want to be vaccinated then let them be. The ones who don't want vaccination should have their sovereignty respected.
Lets just run a hypothetical here and assume that everybody gets vaccinated with a vaccine in spite of no way of testing for all side effects both sooner and down the track is safe. There will be people injured from this and some will die. That is a statistic with vaccines deemed safe. These are vaccines that have been around for decades. This vaccine will not have that same amount of time. It would be rushed.
And there are people among the anti-vaxxers, selective vaxxers, pro-vaxxers who want to make their own decision, people against aspects of the lockdown, libertarians, Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Buddihsts, athiests, agnostics etc., etc., who are conerned about 5G. These people know the harm caused by mobile phone radiation. They know there will be effects from 5G such as illness, cancer etc. and evventual death. They are thinking about society! They are thinking of themselves, their families, and ..... they .... are .... thinking .... of ..... their felllow man
on 07-09-2020 10:01 PM
on 07-09-2020 10:15 PM
You really need to get a grip on reality.
What you posit is a perfect world scenario. The world isn't perfect and will never be.
Besides, the current protests despite the current laws show a distinct disdain for reality.
5G, anti-vax, whatever, demonstrations in the current situation show a distinct lack of willingness to acknowledge valid current conditions.
None of them are and ..... they .... are .... thinking .... of ..... their felllow man
You left out libertarians and fascists.
08-09-2020 11:59 AM - edited 08-09-2020 12:03 PM
@davewil1964 wrote:You really need to get a grip on reality.
What you posit is a perfect world scenario. The world isn't perfect and will never be.
Oh gosh here we go.
@davewil1964 wrote:
Besides, the current protests despite the current laws show a distinct disdain for reality.
5G, anti-vax, whatever, demonstrations in the current situation show a distinct lack of willingness to acknowledge valid current conditions.
The reality is what the people are facing. The reality is that governments are often inept, over bearing and not forthright.
With the 5G part, the deaths and illness caused by the technology could surpass that caused by the corona virus . Certainly the microwave / EMF radiation from 4G towers will affect those living in close proximity. They will suffer the effects of Corona more than people living in areas with lower emissions. With 5G there will be many x many more people suffering the effects,
https://naturallivingfamily.com/what-is-emf-microwave-radiation/
There is not much disdain for reality or a distinct lack of willingness to acknowledge current conditions. More the opposite I say. Perhaps a fascist would disagree here.
@davewil1964 wrote:
None of them are and ..... they .... are .... thinking .... of ..... their felllow man
You left out libertarians and fascists.
Do you remember when hundreds of thousands of people hit the streets to protest Australia's involvement in Bush's war? They cared about their fellow man. Sadly the arrogance of the current PM then ignored and even mocked them.
Well, they ( 1 x prez & 2 x PMs ) were wrong for their reasons to get involved (Many say they bold faced lied) and it was proven that the reasons were wrong. Later utter chaos ensured and the basket case that Iraq had become continues to this day. The people who were marching in May and this month are quite the same. They care about things and each other.. They care about where Australia is heading.
I didn't leave out libertarians. Perhaps I left out fascists.
BTW: What do you think should happen to those who decline to be vaccinated?
on 08-09-2020 12:52 PM
4channe wrote: Do you remember when hundreds of thousands of people hit the streets to protest Australia's involvement in Bush's war? They cared about their fellow man. Sadly the arrogance of the current PM then ignored and even mocked them.
You've overlooked one small detail though; those people weren't marching, without masks, in the middle of a pandemic, therebye jeopardising the health and even the life of that same 'fellow man' on whose behalf they were protesting
on 08-09-2020 01:55 PM
I am a protester from way back, Nuclear ships coming in to NZ , the Springboks playing in NZ when they refused to have black players, I have done it all
BUT I would not be protesting about wearing a mask and staying home that is just stupid
08-09-2020 02:19 PM - edited 08-09-2020 02:19 PM
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
You've overlooked one small detail though; those people weren't marching, without masks, in the middle of a pandemic, therebye jeopardising the health and even the life of that same 'fellow man' on whose behalf they were protesting
With the first march,any protesters wore masks. I believe in the following one, the one this weekend gone, some were wearing masks.
A rush job vaccine pushed by a profit driven pharmaceutical company without the many years required to monitor subsequent side-effects could be more harmful than any risk of people catching corona virus during a protest march.
A current government that is made up of a politicial party that is more likely to back warmongers (proven history) and cater to the profit desires of big business can put people at risk. Especially one that have been proven to be inept!
The rolling out of a largely untested technology that will harm people by EMF, microwave, radiation emissions will harm people by just that and make things worse for people trying to recover from influenza, covid 19 etc. So there's less risk in what the people are doing now than the probable risk of things happening by a bungling inept greed-backed gov't!
I have a hard time finding condemnation for these protesters.
on 08-09-2020 03:24 PM
@4channel wrote:
With the first march,any protesters wore masks. I believe in the following one, the one this weekend gone, some were wearing masks.
SOME were when it was mandated that ALL should be wearing a mask.
If only one of those protesters was positive then they could've passed it on to other and they then pass it to others so from one infected person you now have a cluster of 20 or more people who have no idea who they were in contact with which is the biggest risk shown.
They then keep infecting others and everything that has been done to try and control this virus is now out the window and we could be back to square one.I have a hard time finding condemnation for these protesters
So you are fine with the above?
Protesting and gathering against the LAW and you are fine with that?
Doesn't matter to you that through their irresponsible action they may be responsible for the possible death of others?
You carry on and harp on about the things that you seem to believe in that may affect others but you don't give a damn about protesters that don't give a damn about anyone but themselves that may cause the DEATH of others.
So are you joining their selfish ranks as your beliefs seem to parallel their beliefs?
on 08-09-2020 03:34 PM
Shades of the Scarecrow - wanting a brain.