Captains call takes one hour and costs

[colic2bullsgirlore]

peanuts

Well in 2004 it  took one hour for Little Johnny's Captains call

It took John Howard ( the then coalition Prime Minister) one hour to announce and introduce legislation that the government would change the marriage act to exclusively a man/woman contract

PM targets gays in marriage law
May 27, 2004 - 2:04PM

Gay couples will be banned from marrying or adopting children from overseas but will be allowed to inherit their partner's superannuation under proposed changes to marriage laws announced today.

Less than an hour after Prime Minister John Howard announced the changes to the Marriage Act, the government rushed legislation enabling the changes into parliament.

Mr Howard said the Marriage Act would be changed to include a definition of marriage as the `voluntarily entered-into union of a man and a woman to exclusion of all others'.

The laws currently do not define marriage.

``We've decided to insert this into the Marriage Act to make it very plain that that is our view of a marriage and to also make it very plain that the definition of a marriage is something that should rest in the hands ultimately of the parliament of the nation,'' Mr Howard told reporters.

''(It should) not over time be subject to redefinition or change by courts, it is something that ought to be expressed through the elected representatives of the country.''

Attorney-General Philip Ruddock said the changes to the Marriage Act would protect the institution of marriage, while the Family Law Act changes would make it clear that overseas adoptions by same-sex couples would not be recognised in Australia.

``The government is fundamentally opposed to same-sex couples adopting children,'' Mr Ruddock said in a statement.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/divisive-marriage-equality-plebiscite-to-cost-...

Price Waterhouse Cooper

It found the plebiscite itself would cost $158 million to stage, not counting the extra $66 million in public funding likely to be committed to promote both the "yes" and "no" arguments.

The modelling suggests there would be another $281 million surrendered from the national economy from lost production as people take the time to vote.

That is, around $525 million all up.

That's the conclusion of modelling undertaken by one of the world's most respected business accountancy consulting firms, PricewaterhouseCoopers Australia.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-29/malcolm-turnbull-pushes-labor-to-support-budget-savings/779639...

The Federal Government is ratcheting up pressure on Labor to quickly pass a package of $6.1 billion of savings over four years, publicly releasing all details of its omnibus bill.

Key points:

The bill, which is set to be introduced to Parliament on Wednesday by Treasurer Scott Morrison, includes 24 savings measures which are "part of a concerted strategy to demonstrate immediate and tangible progress towards fiscal repair"

A conscience vote in Parliament on same sex marriage would take an hour to announce and introduce into Parliament (using John Howards timeline) and would save us minimally $150 million and overall up to 500 million.

Is Malcolm Turnbull really Australia's "Captain" or just another cowtowing conservative puppet ?

hypocrisy hɪˈpɒkrɪsi/ noun: hypocrisy; plural noun: hypocrisies

The practice of claiming to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case.

synonyms: sanctimoniousness, sanctimony, pietism, piousness, affected piety, affected superiority, false virtue, cant, humbug, pretence, posturing, speciousness, empty talk.

[davidc4430]

when will the media start the 

WHERE IS THE REAL MALCOLM TURNBULL

outcry like they did with Julia Gillard

Julia was treated like vermin from the day she took the top job by the opossition and the media. its time that 'what goes around comes around' hit malcolm.

he was once a believer in equal rights for gay people, global warming and many other subjects but now is avoiding his past like the plague. and its showing in his popularity stakes, people thought removing tony would see a change in the liberal govt but its just the same with a different captain.

[shepherdsrule]

If I am wrong feel free to let me know, but I was told that Qld has now agreed to allow gay couples to adopt children.

They still can not get married however.

If I am right about this, my mind boggles...........

So you can't get a peice of paper declaring you husband and husband or wife and wife, but you can adopt a child which (unlike any marriage) is a guaranteed lifelong commitment between two people.

Baffling.

[debra9275]

Yep... It was that easy to amend the marriage act colic

[davidc4430]

you do know if we were to let gay people to marry there would be no stopping people marrying their dogs, or goats or heavens to bid....

ROCKS!

well so say the fear mongers

[*tippy*toes*]

They don't want gay couples adopting children because gay male automatically means pervert. Funny how most of the perverts are heteros or bi. I was going to have a baby for my gay cousin (who incidentally is a teacher in an all boys catholic school and is worshipped by both staff and students), but medical reasons prevented it. It's a shame as they've now been together 27 years and would have been great parents. They don't live a flamboyant lifestyle like a lot of gays do, they live like the rest of us do, they just happen to be both men.

I love how they're not allowed to legally marry, but are still subject to the same laws as married couples. My cousin and his parter have never been interested in getting married, but still support those that want to. In their eyes they are married, they both wear rings, they just don't have a piece of paper saying as much. Having a piece of paper is not going to make them any more together than they are now. I also support those that wish to have their relationship made legal.

They could have saved a fortune on voting by including it as a question on the census. They would have had their answer right there. It should be a people's choice, not one made by a homophobic government.

[lind9650]

I think the main reason for gay couples to want to marry are some legal hickups.

Two females I knew were living toether for 12 years when one of them died in an accident at work. Even though they had made wills regarding posessions, the living partner was not entitled to receive the Workers Compensation nor the Superannuation that would have been paid to a husband or wife.

The deceased woman had no family, so all the money goes into Government coffers.

I agree, they should have had this question on the Census papers, and I just wonder what the Labor Party has to fear by blocking the question to be put to the people?

Erica

[sandypas]

As far as I'm concerned, who is it gping to hurt to let them marry - let people do what they want as long as it doesn't effect anyone else.  My problem is that surely the government has more important things to work on that effects everyone and our country yet all we hear about lately is same sex marriage.

[davidc4430]

the liberals who go on endlessly about the financial mess our country is in wonders why they are not popular.

on one hand they bleat of not enough money in their treasury to pay for everything

then on the other they will happily spend between 150 million and 500 million $  just to apease their in the closet supporters.

this govt i predict will be trailing the labour party in opinion polls until forced to another election. malcolms popularity is allready on the slide since the election as people see him as a ditherer who has no say in his own govt.

the whole purpose of the plebisite is to put off the allowing of gay people to marry as long as possible. and if those against it can get the law regarding descrimination changed it'll be open slather to villify gay people.

[village_person]

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@davidc4430 wrote:

when will the media start the 

WHERE IS THE REAL MALCOLM TURNBULL

he was once a believer in equal rights for gay people, global warming and many other subjects but now is avoiding his past like the plague. and its showing in his popularity stakes, people thought removing tony would see a change in the liberal govt but its just the same with a different captain.

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No prob with the Banker dumping his views. It took Bob Hawke about 6 months to jettison all his grandiose plans after his election and the bald rock star and yurt-dwelling professional idiot soon dumped his beliefs after his election.

It's politics Australian style where the main aim is to follow the road map to the trough and to get your shiny bum on one of the nice big Qantas jets bound for Paris, Rome, London, Vienna, New York, and of course Brussels.