Chemtrails are real

[fourandsixpants]

Chemtrails 

Weather Engineering

GeoEngineering.............it's real....it's happening..........just look out your window..............open your eyes and look up.

Seriously, if you notice unusual 'cloud formations' or unexplained/unusual skies.............'chemtrail activity' in your area then this thread is here to report what you see, describe what unusual weather patterns you are experiencing...

Debate and discuss.

[monman12]

TGSE I looked  at P007's reference : "Neurosurgeon Dr. Russell Blaylock" and agree, where nuts are concerned he is the tops  and his range of purported evil stuff is quite incredible , and nutty. He also knows nothing about aircraft operations either.

You are known by your references P007 and you have picked a real weirdo in Blaylock!

nɥºɾ

[monman12]

P007:  " these are 'made' by turning 'on and off' whilst chemtrailing the chemicals from a plane.......after a while these will spread out."

Actually P007 the photograph is of "hooked cirrus" a normal cloud formation often observed at high altitude.
Why do evil chemers spray at high altitude in daylight for all to see? Come on P007 show us your overhead evil chem aircraft you have boasted about lurking over your head.

I think these evil chemers have been affected by their evil chemicals, or possibly the evil chems are imaginary or not very good,  because according to the chem conspirators (nuts)  (and P007), the evil chemmers and pilots (like me) after modifying many hundreds of very expensive high altitude multi engine aircraft and operating them for many years all over the globe in broad daylight (why do they do it then) do not to seem to have achieved very much. No one on the ground has noticed any of these very very many evil aircraft,  and all the evil support personnel ground crew have kept the evil flights/operations secret.

P007 one's credibility is assessed in a silly debate like this by  references, so how about some  good ones, CSIRO, BOM, NASA etc would be good,  not your nutter ones,  where is your overhead evil chemmer snap? One of your earlier references included some great internal shots of aircraft undergoing weight/balance/stability/ loading/handling trials using internal water  tanks to simulate various/shifting payloads and AUW,s,  sadly these much shown/loved shots by the chemtrail nutters lacked any explanation as to the real purpose of the internal configuration and implied the tanks were for evil daylight spraying (why do the do it in broad daylight?).
I loved this one from your link P007



How evil is this aircraft (a B747) so scary, and in full daylight for all to see, which is the modus operandi for the evil but not very bright evil chem pilots.

The chemtrails nutters are not that bright either if they use that photograph to promote their conspiracy, because it is part of research into wing vortex  production by "heavies",  the aircraft is in an early landing approach configuration (leading and trailing edge flaps extended) it is at low altitude, the evil trails are from 6 smoke generators and it actually a NASA B747.

I think  one is known by one's links P007,  so produce once from a credible source, together with your overhead daily chemtrails in broad daylight, why do they spray then, someone might notice?.

nɥºɾ

[lakeland27]

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@siggie-reported-by-alarmists wrote:

So paintsew, do you also believe that these "chemtrails" are causing global warming?

Are you also saying you believe that Earth no longer has natural clouds, that they are all man made?

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we know whats causing it.  but i know little about the amount of Co2 from aircraft sources as a proportion of that.

[lakeland27]

john is that the same principle applied by Colin Chapman ? gluing balls of cotton wool all over the car and making observations during and after ?

[fourandsixpants]

Chemtrails: Frightening Lesser-Known Facts (Weather control, Monsanto & Bio warfare)

by David Richards (henrymakow.com) 

There has been an increasing awareness of chemtrails in recent years. Protests have been organized, movies have been released and whistle blowers have come forward. Most significantly, former Los Angeles FBI chief Ted Gunderson made a video denouncing chemtrails shortly before his death in 2011.

The heavy spraying began in NATO countries in the late 90s, but today chemtrails are being recorded pretty much everywhere, from Russia to Brazil, South Korea to Cuba. This is a program of extraordinary scope and importance. However, while we know a chemtrail program exists, there is very little hard information on how it functions and what its goals are.

I have been researching chemtrails and, while I don't yet have the full picture, I present this information will plug a few holes.

• Most politicians are as oblivious as we are. AC Griffin, a former CIA and NSA operative, says: 'The monies that go into CIA projects don't necessarily come from congressional appropriations. The congress as a whole is completely oblivious to the aerosol program. They are afraid to ask.'

People on the inside who oppose the program are punished. 'One of the key people who designed the aerosol is now sitting in federal penitentiary. They still go to him to ask him questions.'

Griffin also revealed that former Clinton era Navy Chief of Naval Operations, Jeremy Boorda, left, was murdered because he opposed the program. Boorda was found dead in 1996 with three shotgun wounds in his chest. The authorities were quick to claim he committed suicide, and the autopsy results were never released to the public.

• Commercial airliners are involved in spraying. In the very beginning, the aerosols were sprayed solely by military planes, but now the program has been expanded and commercial airliners have been outfitted with aerosol units controlled by computers and satellites. Photos provide evidence of this, like this Lufthansa jet flying over the US (below,left).

In the airline industry, the operation is known as Project Cloverfield. In 2000, a high level executive at an American airline revealed his office was visited by two men from an unnamed government agency:

'They told us that the government was going to pay our airline, along with others, to release special chemicals from commercial aircraft. When asked what the chemicals were and why we were going to spray them, they told us that information was given on a need-to-know basis and we weren't cleared for it...We were made to sign non-disclosure forms that basically stated that we would go to prison if we told anyone what we knew.'

Delivery by commercial aircraft raises the possibility that many countries have not given consent to being sprayed, and may be unaware it's even happening.

• Weather manipulation is a daily occurrence - Chemtrails are used in conjunction with HAARP for geo-engineering (the technical term for weather control). Much is written about the ability to create disasters like earthquakes and tsunamis against an enemy, but we don't realize that weather patterns are manipulated all the time. Scott Stevens was a TV weatherman in the US but quit his job upon realizing that this was happening on a nigh daily basis.

GAMBLING ON FOOD: 'WEATHER DERIVATIVES"

Global warming is the cover story for the increasingly severe and bizarre weather worldwide.

• Geo-engineering is used to force GMO crops on the world. Manufactured floods and droughts damage harvests and put farmers out of business.

Monsanto has the patent for GMO seeds that are drought and flood resistant, as well as resistant to the poisonous effects of aluminum, one of the key metals in chemtrails. Any farmer who refuses to grow GMO crops will not be able to guarantee a good harvest and will go out of business. Even worse, Monsanto's end game is to force what are termed 'Terminator' seeds on farmers worldwide. These crops don't produce seeds, meaning the farmer has to buy new seeds from Monsanto every planting season!

• Weather Derivatives are chemtrail insurance. - You may wonder how the big players protect their interests from weather warfare. Say, how does George Soros, who owns thousands of acres of farmland in America, protect his profits from engineered drought?

Companies use financial instruments to hedge against risk of adverse weather conditions. They first appeared in the late-nineties, the same time the heavy spraying started! Michael Agne, a trader at the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, explains how they work:

'You're betting there's going to be a weather disaster within a particular time-frame, at a particular location, and when it does happen there's going to be a big pay-off.' Obviously, insiders can make big bucks making bets based on the geo-engineering timetable.

CREATING A SICKLY DEPENDENT POPULATION

• Chemtrails are a 'soft kill' operation - Soft kill attacks primarily aim to disable and weaken the enemy, not kill him. As Dr. Len Horowitz has explained, wars are an inefficient way to lower population numbers because they destroy infrastructure. The preferable scenario is to create a sick population dependent on the military-medical-industrial complex for their health. In this way, you have population control, make vast fortunes doing it and keep the infrastructure intact.

Chemtrails are a multi-pronged attack.

Firstly, the metallic salts used in the aerosols are highly toxic and require our bodies to waste tremendous amounts of energy removing them. Millions of people cannot do it. In the last ten years, respiratory disease in the US has moved from 8th to 3rd highest cause of death. Asthma rates have more than doubled in the western world and Alzheimer's' disease, a condition that is caused by aluminum poisoning, has also skyrocketed.

The second thing is the release of diseases. A high placed military insider claims that bacteria and viruses are freeze-dried and placed on fine filaments for release. The metals released along with the diseases heat up from the sun, creating a perfect environment for the bacteria and viruses to thrive in the air supply.

Third, chemtrails contain nano technological weapons. Surprisingly, this fact has remained so low-key in the alternative media. It is well proven by researchers like Dr. Hildegarde Staninger and former government scientist Clifford Carnicom.

The nanotech consists of genetically modified organisms that are basically bio-robots. When we inhale them, they take up residence in our bodies and live as parasites. When the infestation becomes advanced, the individual develops what is termed Morgellons disease. He is so weak that he can barely do anything and suffers an array of bizarre and ghastly symptoms: scabs that don't heal, hair that falls out and is replaced by pseudo hair and unceasing crawling sensations beneath the skin.

Morgellons is a new condition that has appeared in the last decade - the same time the heavy spraying kicked in! There are an estimated 60,000+ sufferers in the US alone, and their symptoms are chronicled by the Morgellons Research Foundation.

BIO WARFARE

There is evidence that the nanotechnology in the aerosols creates genetically modified red blood cells. Clifford Carnicom has found these cells in the atmosphere and in the blood samples of most people he tests. They are quite unlike normal red blood cells; they can grow outside of the body in a petri dish, survive high temperatures and withstand being doused in acid. Clearly, this is highly sophisticated bio warfare!

We don't know for sure what purpose they serve, but the answer may have been provided by Ray Kurtwell, one of the biggest names in the transhumanism movement. In a recent speech he said: 'In the next 25 years we will have bloodcell -sized devices that go inside your body and keep you healthy from inside, that go in your brain and interact with your biological neurons and merge with our biological intelligence.'

When an establishment scientist tells us with certainty that something will exist, assume that it already does. There is a chance that the 'blood-cell sized devices' that Kurtwell mentioned are the weaponized red blood cells being discovered, and that mind alteration is currently underway.

• How do the perpetrators protect themselves? The Illuminati never launch an attack without making sure they're protected first. For instance, President Bush took an anthrax vaccine two weeks before the anthrax attacks in 2001. They may drink a solution once a day that removes the toxins from their bloodstream, or have a chip put in their arm that acts like a tiny dialysis machine.

Many involved in the operation probably don't know the true agenda. Dr. Bill Deagle was a doctor at Buckley air force base and claims to have treated the pilots who were spraying the aerosols, '95% of them told me they were up there spraying to reflect the sun to stop global warming, so most of them are dumb enough to believe that garbage.'

CONCLUSION

The Illuminati are vandalizing the skies, as visibly as a graffiti artist spraying a wall, and yet most of us remain oblivious. Like little else, chemtrails bring home just how desperate our predicament is.

Despite this, I think anti-chemtrail activism has tremendous potential. The existence of the operation is easy to prove and we have the testimony of many whistle blowers. The protest movement can continue to generate momentum because chemtrails will persist for decades to come.

Source: http://henrymakow.com/2013/04/Chemtr...-Facts%20.html

[fourandsixpants]

ref sheHeffalump posts of sceptics 'hitting' about Dr Richard Blaycock, neurosurgeon.....I respond with:

http://www.pillsburylaw.com/richard-blaylock

"...Richard L. Blaylock 
 Mr. Blaylock’s technology practice assists established and emerging technology clients in the areas of intellectual property litigation and corporate transactional counseling for licensing, mergers and acquisitions, collaboration agreements and corporate financing.

Mr. Blaylock is well versed in a wide array of technologies including those germane to the chemical, pharmaceutical, biological, novel materials and pollution control industries.

He is experienced in the development of pharmaceuticals, biologics and medical devices, intellectual property asset management, patent validity and infringement analyses, Hatch-Waxman generic drug litigation, as well as trademark, trade secrets and unfair competition disputes.

Prior to practicing law, Mr. Blaylock held a National Science Foundation Fellowship in Chemistry at the California Institute of Technology, where he conducted biochemical and spectroscopic research concerning cell membrane transport proteins.

Affiliations

American Bar Association; American Intellectual Property Law Association..."

Professional people that pose a threat to those powerful folk with an 'agenda' are often rubbished and discredited.... 

Wikipedia is a very general source of information and as I have pointed out in previous posts, entries to Wikip are 'fiddled' with and 'changed' all the time so that the resultant info becomes quite 'altered'. ......Ebay category of 'books' and other printed matter is one of the highest selling categories. Once a book is printed the information remains in it as when printed.

[fourandsixpants]

my response to: monmans comments and post of:

P007: " these are 'made' by turning 'on and off' whilst chemtrailing the chemicals from a plane.......after a while these will spread out."
Actually P007 the photograph is of "hooked cirrus" a normal cloud formation often observed at high altitude. Why do evil chemers spray at high altitude in daylight for all to see? Come on P007 show us your overhead evil chem aircraft you have boasted about lurking over your head.
I think these evil chemers have been affected by their evil chemicals, or possibly the evil chems are imaginary or not very good,  because according to the chem conspirators (nuts)  (and P007), the evil chemmers and pilots (like me) after modifying many hundreds of very expensive high altitude multi engine aircraft and operating them for many years all over the globe in broad daylight (why do they do it then) do not to seem to have achieved very much. No one on the ground has noticed any of these very very many evil aircraft,  and all the evil support personnel ground crew have kept the evil flights/operations secret.
P007 one's credibility is assessed in a silly debate like this by  references, so how about some  good ones, CSIRO, BOM, NASA etc would be good,  not your nutter ones,  where is your overhead evil chemmer snap? One of your earlier references included some great internal shots of aircraft undergoing weight/balance/stability/ loading/handling trials using internal water  tanks to simulate various/shifting payloads and AUW,s,  sadly these much shown/loved shots by the chemtrail nutters lacked any explanation as to the real purpose of the internal configuration and implied the tanks were for evil daylight spraying (why do the do it in broad daylight?). I loved this one from your link P007

How evil is this aircraft (a B747) so scary, and in full daylight for all to see, which is the modus operandi for the evil but not very bright evil chem pilots.

The chemtrails nutters are not that bright either if they use that photograph to promote their conspiracy, because it is part of research into wing vortex  production by "heavies",  the aircraft is in an early landing approach configuration (leading and trailing edge flaps extended) it is at low altitude, the evil trails are from 6 smoke generators and it actually a NASA B747.
I think  one is known by one's links P007,  so produce once from a credible source, together with your overhead daily chemtrails in broad daylight, why do they spray then, someone might notice?.

nɥºɾ

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I do not know why we are being sprayed......thought you might know the answer to this

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How do you explain what this foll video shows from Dublin, Ireland of chemtrails being emitted from a plane in a grid pattern?

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP_nUDMoAKE 

"Jun  8, 2013

AFTER HEAVY SPRAYING THIS MORNING THIS IS WHAT I SEE FALLING FROM THE SKY SCARY SH*T PEOPLE"

[fourandsixpants]

In reply to Sigs who asked:"

So paintsew, do you also believe that these "chemtrails" are causing global warming?

Are you also saying you believe that Earth no longer has natural clouds, that they are all man made?

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Not sure if the actual 'cloud-like' formations that are formed by chemtrailing is initially causing global warming-in fact, one would tend to believe that maybe one of the reasons for making more cloud cover (between the source of heat-sun and the planet Earth) would lessen the heat or warming effect....but I have noticed here, that often after rain/precipitation falls from chemtrailed/cloud-like formations that it gets increasingly humid/very,very warm for quite a few hours then a huge drop in temperature follows......it's not unusual to get summer, winter-in fact it's like we get all seasons and temperatures happening in less than a 24 hour period!! I have read source material that states that even though chemtrailing might be initialised for purposes of lessening global warming that the after effects of chemtrailing actually increases and causes global warming- as to the correct answer?....I don't know and therefore cannot say that I 'believe' either argument to be the truth.

As to whether I believe that there are no longer natural clouds but all man made clouds on Earth?....again, I can only report what I see in my own area or what I see if I travel out of my area.....or what others report and post. Yes, I am angered by this weather manipulation interference from what I see before my eyes when I compare it with my younger days and childhood memories of watching all 'natural clouds in the sky' events. Many younger folk in their 20's and younger would not remember as they have not seen skies filled with 100% natural clouds.

Maybe because of pollution and industrialization etc we on Earth have completely depleted the ozone layer....the stratosphere/ionospheres are perhaps so messed up by 'us' that there is not enough protection from the penetrating rays of the hot sun.......so chemtrailing is done to make a false 'shield/layer of cloud-like formations' to protect Earth and all life on it? I don't really know what the reasons are for all this. I would like to believe that we still have some natural cloud formations either still occuring somewhere on our planet.....but there are not many pics showing them anymore.....and if this be true then I live in hope and would like to believe that if we put our planet and all living things on it first, instead of money, that our Planet without further interference could once again take charge in the Weather Department and yes, natural clouds would once again be sighted in all our beautiful skies

[fourandsixpants]

to LakieLand who posted:

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@siggie-reported-by-alarmists wrote:

So paintsew, do you also believe that these "chemtrails" are causing global warming?

Are you also saying you believe that Earth no longer has natural clouds, that they are all man made?

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we know whats causing it.  but i know little about the amount of Co2 from aircraft sources as a proportion of that

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I ask you for your comments about following please  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR6KVYJ73AU

posted/Uploaded on Jan 13, 2011

"Where Former FBI Chief Ted Gunderson Says Chemtrail Death Dumps Must..........

Former FBI Chief, Ted L. Gunderson, makes a statement regarding the chemtrail "death dumps", otherwise know as air **bleep**, on January 12, 2011. Ted says the following: "The death dumps, otherwise known as chemical trails, are being dropped and sprayed throughout the United States and England, Scotland, Ireland, and Northern Europe. I have personally seen them not only in the United States, but in Mexico and in Canada. Birds are dying around the world. Fish are dying by the hundreds of thousands around the world. This is genocide. This is poison. This is murder by the United Nations. This element within our society that is doing this must be stopped. I happen to know of two of the locations where the airplanes are that dump this **bleep** on us. Four of the planes are out of the Air National Guard in Lincoln, Nebraska. And, the other planes are out of Fort Sill, Oklahoma. I personally have observed the planes that were standing still in Nebraska - Lincoln, Nebraska - at the Air National Guard. They have no markings on them. They are huge, bomber-like airplanes with no markings. This is a crime: a crime against humanity, a crime against America, a crime against the citizens of this great country. The must be stopped. WHAT IS WRONG WITH CONGRESS? This has an affect on their population, and their people, and their friends, and their relatives, and themselves. What's wrong with them? What's wrong with the pilots who are flying these airplanes and dumping this **bleep**, this poison, on their own families? Somebody has to do something about it. Somebody in Congress has to step forward and stop it now. Thank you. I'm Ted Gunderson." For more details, visit http://www.aircrap.org."

and also...."Navy Chief  of Naval Operations, Jeremy Boorda, left, was murdered because he opposed the program. Boorda was found dead in 1996 with three shotgun wounds in his chest. The authorities were quick to claim he committed suicide, and the autopsy results were never released to the public.  http://therebel.org/environment/599041-chemtrails-frightening-lesser-known-facts"

[fourandsixpants]

Reported on 2nd December 2013: http://aircrap.org/category/chemtrail-news/

Facebook Removes Weather Modification and HAARP Pages

Posted by CommunityChemtrail News, FeaturedMonday, December 2nd, 2013

Facebook Weather Mod Pages Totaling Tens of Thousands, Forced To Start Over Again.

(BIN) Facebook removed TheWeatherSpace.com Network on November 12, 2013 without a solid reason as to why.  In fact all sites on the server were gone.  A chemtrail monitoring page, a HAARP Status Monitoring Page, a Southern California Weather Page, and the National Weather Page.  All pages totaled over 100,000 likes.

When arriving at Facebook the security team greeted me and told me to fill a card out.  I then gave my license as I thought this was the process to see someone there and get a visitor badge.  No big deal here … 2 minutes later 6 police cars came in and told me to leave.  I really did not know where this came from.  They didn’t really know either, however I left and drove the 6 hours back to Southern California empty handed.  I had no answers.

I have since started over on the new Facebook Pages and have seen growth in them in only 10 days.

TheWeatherSpace.com Network Facebook Page -  Click Here – Had 63,000 people and was gaining 10,000 every 2-3 weeks and growing fast.  This page is a custom weather forecast and alert system that is not government controlled so try it out and trust your citizens to take care of the rest.

HAARP Status page – Click Here – Had 26,000 people on it and most noted for Detecting HURRICANE SANDY 10 days before hitting.  It’s under 1000 now but posts update frequency maps on what is being detected in the upper atmosphere.  It’s useful to some.

Chemtrail Forecast Systems – Click Here – Had 6,000 people on it.  It’s under 1000.  It posts daily Chemtrail Forecasts out to four days judging on the previous day’s activity.  It’s useful to some as well.

Southern California Weather Authority – Click Here – Had 8,000 people on it … It’s now just over 1000.  It was the most unique and largest forecast project for 10 counties across Southern California.

TheWeatherSpace.com Main Page – Not Facebook, but is the home of the project.  Housing an alert system with thousands of people on it, receiving non-government issued tornado, winter and other forecast products.