Chemtrails are real

Chemtrails 

Weather Engineering

GeoEngineering.............it's real....it's happening..........just look out your window..............open your eyes and look up.

 

 

Seriously, if you notice unusual 'cloud formations' or unexplained/unusual skies.............'chemtrail activity' in your area then this thread is here to report what you see, describe what unusual weather patterns you are experiencing...

Debate and discuss.

 

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Some more reading for you then while you wait for my video of showing 'persistent contrails' - see below for explanation...:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/atmospheric-geoengineering-weather-manipulation-contrails-and-chemtrail...

 

Atmospheric Geoengineering: Weather Manipulation, Contrails and Chemtrails A Review of the "Case Orange" report

 

"..At an international symposium held in Ghent, Belgium May 28-30, 2010, scientists asserted that “manipulation of climate through modification of Cirrus clouds is neither a hoax nor a conspiracy theory.” It is “fully operational” with a solid sixty-year history...."

 

..."The only conspiracy surrounding geoengineering is that most governments and industry refuse to publicly admit what anyone with eyes can see."

 

..."Going under a variety of names – atmospheric geoengineering, weather modification, solar radiation management, chemical buffering, cloud seeding, weather force multiplication – toxic aerial spraying is popularly known as chemtrails. However, this is merely one technique employed to modify weather. The practice of environmental modification is vast and well funded."

 

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Contrails Are Chemtrails

Case Orange rejects use of the term ‘chemtrails’ because it is associated with amateur conspiracy theorists. The only credible document it could find that uses it is the Space Preservation Act of 2001 introduced by U.S. Representative Dennis Kucinich (D-OH). [7]  H.R. 2977 sought to ban the use of exotic weapon systems that would damage climate, weather, tectonic and biological systems. “Chemtrails” are specifically listed. Though later removed, no version of the bill ever became law.

Instead, the writers prefer the term ‘persistent contrails’ to describe the phenomenon since all contrails are chemtrails. ‘Persistent contrails’ distinguishes those that contain weather-altering additives from those that represent normal aircraft exhaust that dissipates after a few seconds or minutes..."

 

the next bit is 'specially for monman:)

 

“Weather manipulation through contrail formation … is in place and fully operational.”

Case Orange cites publicly available material that shows geoengineering has been ongoing for “at least 60 years.” Used as a weapon of war in Hamburg by the UK during World War II, it was also used in the Vietnam Conflict by the US.  Controversy over its use, revealed by investigative reporter Jack Anderson, spurred Senate hearings in 1972. During those hearings, military officials denied the use of cloud seeding technology. Later, a private letter from Secretary of Defense Melvin Laird admitting that his testimony was false surfaced. He, again unbelievably, claimed he didn’t know what was happening. [9]

Environmental modification (EnMod) weaponry was finally banned by treaty in 1978. The UN Convention on the Prohibition of Military or Any Other Hostile Use of Environmental Modification Techniques forced the end of such programs, overtly anyway.[10]  (Case Orange authors seem unaware of this international ban, as it is one of their recommendations.)

However, with widespread reporting of rising global temperatures, increasing population, and degradation of water supplies, renewed interest in EnMod is now becoming broadly supported. (See, e.g., Top economists recommend climate engineering, 4 Sep 2009 [11] and similarly, Top science body calls for geoengineering ‘plan B’, 1 Sep 2009.[12])

The crew in Operation Stormfury in 1963. Note the special belly on the Douglas DC6-B for cloud seeding purposes. (From Case Orange)

Building a case for old technology finding a new market, Case Orange discusses several U.S. patents. For example, authors describe a 1975 patent, “Powder Contrail Generation,” [13] for the invention of a:

“specific contrail generation apparatus for producing a powder contrail having maximum radiation scattering ability for a given weight [of] material. The seeding material … consists of 85% metallic particles and 15% colloidal Silica and Silica gel in order to produce a stable contrail that has a residence period of 1 up to 2 weeks.”

In 2009, researchers published “Modification of Cirrus clouds to reduce global warming,” which proposed two methods of delivery for this same proportion of metallics to silica and the same staying power of one to two weeks.[14]

Case Orange also reveals a 1991 patent held by Hughes Aircraft Company [15] that:

“contains 18 claims to reduce global warming through stratospheric seeding with aluminum oxide… thorium oxide … and refractory Welsbach material ….”

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@paintsew007 wrote:

completely off topic sheheffalump.....go start a new thread please.

 

https://www.facebook.com/AustraliansAgainstChemtrails/posts/538162912896901

Today 12:57 Perth, Midland
Today 12:57 Perth, Midland
  • "Hundreds of people in Perth have just witnessed a massive chemtrail being sprayed as we speak (very blue skies at moment). 6PR radio is alight with a heated discussion. with callers and a guest 'aviation expert' trying to explain it all as a contrail in unique weather conditions." - Phil Perth has been totally smashed today as we've seen the eruption of the first X-class solar flares of 2013, as well as a couple of smaller M-class flares. Sydney's skies and towards Central NSW were also decimated with chemtrails, and large-scale "blanket" type spraying has been witnessed to the North of the Sunshine Coast. What's happening in your area?
     

Not off topic at all, Paints. It's what is called an analogy. 

 
analogy
əˈnalədʒi/
noun
 
  1. 1.
    a comparison between one thing and another, typically for the purpose of explanation or clarification.
     
    You referred to thousands of videos posted on youtube which you believe prove the existence of chemtrails - I posted links to 'thousands' of images of of UFOs and crop circles which are said to prove the existence of aliens and asked if one assumption was more credible than the other
    Someone as clever as you - who can declare with absolute confidence that "We do not grow oak trees in Australia" and   accepts that skies can be "decimated'"  should not have any trouble grasping such a simple analogy.
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i don't admit when i am wrong either. only because it happens so rarely i haven't had much practiseSmiley LOL

 

aliens are real

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@paintsew007 wrote:

ref meeps posted pics taken from her backyard on last Monday 2nd December 2013 :

I went to hang the washing out and what do I see?  shocked1.gif

 

taken literally minutes ago

 

 

 

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Well......... These pics say it all really. No need for me to add a comment

 

 

 


 

 

 

I agree.  Those are in fact CONdensation-TRAILS and clouds.  

 

The Chemtrails Conspiracy theory would actually support that because those particular contrails disappeared very quickly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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*sheesh* sheheffalump!! ....I have my very own dictionary Dear! Thanks all the same.

 

So I put my foot in my mouth over a tree!! and we all had a great laugh over it - well meeps and I both did:) I castigated myself publicly over it, on here by sticking my head and all my other body parts down a (tree) toilet.....was this not enough for you? Should I conduct a public hanging also? ....and I apologised to meeps too.

 

Get over it sheheffalumpHeart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Q. Why do aliens make crop circles?
A. Because they are corny......

 

 

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oh yeah, no probs paintsew.....if it weren't for the oak tree conspiracy theory, i would have never known about the alien that Ibis pointed out, so its all good.  exciting stuff.....

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ref  earlier posting of this 'fallout' video taken in Ireland http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP_nUDMoAKE

perhaps these are 'silica' particles?

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Hi meeps....I gave you a kudo for your first photo and description - i agree this is a 'contrail'

 

.....your 2nd pic look like man made cirrus clouds that form from 'persistent contrails'  

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ref. meeps:

oh yeah, no probs paintsew.....if it weren't for the oak tree conspiracy theory, i would have never known about the alien that Ibis pointed out, so its all good.  exciting stuff.....

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LOL Smiley LOL

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@paintsew007 wrote:

Hi meeps....I gave you a kudo for your first photo and description - i agree this is a 'contrail'

 

.....your 2nd pic look like man made cirrus clouds that form from 'persistent contrails'  


 

Thanks paintsew.   The pic doesn't really look that different to those identified as "chemtrails" though...

 

 

 

what do you think these have been indentified as?

 

 

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I have to run but will try to check in later today.......

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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