Converting a gas car to electric

[softail-joanie]

. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odhLfpIFxB0 In his own garage

Ive been following some of the progress of people changing old gas cars over into EVs since I seen a movie called

"Who Killed the electric car?"

and thought id share this video I just found, Enjoy

[wilk1149]

Trying to put smart in some heads is as difficult as inserting a banana into a concrete slab

[pct001wine]

Like thoughts into an undeveloped brain, you can insert a banana into a concrete slab that isn't set.

[wilk1149]

A lot of set concrete here

[softail-joanie]

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_R._Ovshinsky

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_encumbrance_of_large_automotive_NiMH_batteries

In an interview in the 2006 documentary Who Killed the Electric Car?, Ovshinsky stated that in the early 1990s, the auto industry created the US Auto Battery Consortium (USABC) to stifle the development of electric vehicle technology by preventing the dissemination of knowledge about Ovshinky's battery-related patents to the public through the California Air Resources Board (CARB).[5]

According to Ovshinsky, the auto industry falsely suggested that NiMH technology was not yet ready for widespread use in road cars.[6] Members of the USABC, including General Motors, Ford, and Chrysler, threatened to take legal action against Ovshinsky if he continued to promote NiMH's potential for use in BEVs, and if he continued to lend test batteries to Solectria, a start-up electric vehicle maker that was not part of the USABC. The Big Three car companies argued that his behavior violated their exclusive rights to the battery technology, because they had matched a federal government grant given to Ovonics to develop NiMH technology. Critics argue that the Big Three were more interested in convincing CARB members that electric vehicles were not technologically and commercially viable.[5]

In 1994, General Motors acquired a controlling interest in Ovonics's battery development and manufacture, including patents controlling the manufacture of large NiMH batteries. The original intent of the equity alliance was to develop NiMH batteries for GM's EV1 BEV. Sales of GM-Ovonics batteries were later taken over by GM manager and critic of CARB John Williams, leading Ovshinsky to wonder whether his decision to sell to GM had been naive.[5] The EV1 program was shut down by GM before the new NiMH battery could be commercialized, despite field tests that indicated the Ovonics battery extended the EV1's range to over 150 miles.[5]

Solor panels- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6n7H8EtMUE

[wilk1149]

These people tell our politicians what to do too. Corporate greed is the devil and we are all devil worshippers whether we want to or not

[softail-joanie]

my post wouldn't take.try this again

 I think it's more a case of the car makers and oil companys who make so much money from the things one don't need in an electric car. Such as oil filters, and oil changes every so many miles,radiators and anti freeze, fluid lines, mufflers and exhaust parts, the cars, and the gas to run them as well.

Yes, they do have influence in government and at the moment have a patent on the good batteries preventing their manufacture and marketing. Therefore, thats what we should be after, start a petition take them to court and take back that battery technology for free use by anyone with the ability and willingness to make and sell them. Our grounds, that can easally be proven, is the oil company holding the patents have no intention of making the battery for public use. They only bought it to crush it.

[the_hawk*]

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@pct001wine wrote:

I was referring to your comment that LiPO batteries were banned from commercial aeroplanes - is that not the case then ?

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and got curious and went and looked at your deamliner statement and found this that you must have missed.


"The aircraft has suffered from several in-service problems, notably fires on board related to its lithium-ion batteries. These systems were reviewed by both the FAA and the Japanese aviation agency. On January 16, 2013, the FAA issued an emergency airworthiness directive that grounded all 787s in the United States."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_787_Dreamliner

I do use these batteries and I dont even store them in my shed and certanly not in the house and when carrying them in the car they are stored in a flame proof bag and sit on the front seat where I can keep an eye on them. 

I prepare the night before and my batteries are placed on the ground next to my car so I cant miss them, I would never store them in the car even over night as they are that dangerous

I have lost two planes to fire after the lipos have suffered damage, many modelers have lost their sheds during charging of lipos.  

[the_hawk*]

I just noticed they are referring to lithium-ion batteries and not lithium polymer that modelers use, the LI batteries are more stable but still extremely dangerous if not treated with extreme care.  

[the_hawk*]

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@softail-joanie wrote:

my post wouldn't take.try this again

 I think it's more a case of the car makers and oil companys who make so much money from the things one don't need in an electric car. Such as oil filters, and oil changes every so many miles,radiators and anti freeze, fluid lines, mufflers and exhaust parts, the cars, and the gas to run them as well.

Yes, they do have influence in government and at the moment have a patent on the good batteries preventing their manufacture and marketing. Therefore, thats what we should be after, start a petition take them to court and take back that battery technology for free use by anyone with the ability and willingness to make and sell them. Our grounds, that can easally be proven, is the oil company holding the patents have no intention of making the battery for public use. They only bought it to crush it.

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If this technology was out there the Chinese would be making it, they don't take any notice of patents. 

But I do agree the corporations are not doing the right thing, they are protecting their business and share holders and the government doesnt care

[the_hawk*]

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@the_hawk* wrote:

I just noticed they are referring to lithium-ion batteries and not lithium polymer that modelers use, the LI batteries are more stable but still extremely dangerous if not treated with extreme care.  

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looks like I jumped the gun again, seems they are very much the same animal 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_polymer_battery