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boris1gary · ‎20-04-2014

As it's more than 100 days now, it has been suggested that a new thread was needed. The current govt has been breaking promises and telling lies at a rate so fast it's hard to keep up.

This below is worrying, "independent" pffft, as if your own doctor is somehow what? biased, it's ridiculous. So far there is talk of only including people under a certain age 30-35, for now. Remember that if your injured in a car, injured at work or get ill, you too might need to go on the DSP. They have done a similar think in the UK with devastating consequences.

and this is the 2nd time recently where the Govt has referred to work as welfare???? So when you go to work tomorrow (or tuesday), just remember that's welfare.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-20/disability-pensioners-may-be-reassessed-kevin-andrews/5400598

Independent doctors could be called in to reassess disability pensioners, Federal Government says

The Federal Government is considering using independent doctors to examine disability pensioners and assess whether they should continue to receive payments.

Currently family doctors provide reports supporting claims for the Disability Support Pension (DSP).

But Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews is considering a measure that would see independent doctors reassess eligibility.

"We are concerned that where people can work, the best form of welfare is work," Mr Andrews said at a press conference.

boris1gary · ‎16-01-2015

facts prove that all the stories about people going to the Dr for no reason and clogging up the system have been proven to be just that - stories. Same with the so called 6 minute medicine, the numbers don't add up, it's another "story" used by those intent on destroying Medicare which is one of the best most efficient health systems in the world.

cherry*135 · ‎16-01-2015

@icyfroth wrote:
How is it we have to import so many medical personnel?

Has our own ratio of young ppl people entering the medical profession ie, nurses, doctors, declined, or has the ratio of sick people inclined?

This has been extensively covered in the news for years.

There are not enough Australian educated people qualified to be doctors in Australia. Some choose not to become GP's. Australian GP's don't want to work in Regional areas - remoteness, no other Dr's available for relief.

If there were no foreign Drs working in Aust, our town would have a couple of nearly retired Aust educated Dr's ( which does not meet the demand) instead if the 10 or more we have currently.

The school leavers grade required to gain entry to Uni is very high - 99.9% grade at sone uni's. Perhaps there aren't enough smart Australians or students who work hard enough to get that high grade required? A lot that do get that grade at school are other nationalities.

cherry*135 · ‎16-01-2015

Australia actively recruits nurses from other counties too. And police officers.

People should be happy these 'foreigners' are willing to come to this country to kessen the shortfall in ceratin careers.

icy - an ageing population would require more medical services. Retired people tend to live in /move to smaller towns/regional areas. Most of the people moving to my town are wealthy retirees from Sydney. Medical Centre full of them.

debra9275 · ‎16-01-2015

Our family doctor, that we've been going to for around 20 years, stopped bulk billing about 10 years ago. I don't know why. They are always packed though, it's hard to get an appointment and I've heard them say to people that they aren't taking any new patients. It currently costs us I think it is about $76 , you have to pay upfront and they reimburse you $37 a day or 2 later.

I think there is another medical centre here that bulk bills but , they are probably even busier.

cherry*135 · ‎16-01-2015

Yes, that sounds like our main medical centre, which used to be the only one. Thankfully that has changed now, with new ones opened ( staffed by foreign educated doctors). I believe the original medical centre had trouble attracting permanent staff ( aust educated) and was left with a dwindling number of nearly retired doctors - hence 2 week wait for an appt.

cherry*135 · ‎16-01-2015

This may explain the shortage in Aust qualified doctors.

"Most (foreign doctors) had no idea of the obstacle course they would face when they answered the call to come to Australia to help plug holes created in the years after the Keating and Howard governments froze enrolments of medical students to contain the Medicare bill."

The after effects (serious) of bad policies.

monman12 · ‎16-01-2015

I was starting to worry, no BIG C&P image with some "independent" comments tacked on.

Perhaps the Sandpit could blame Abbott/malodorous Govt for this:

If some do not understand it (and ramifications) return to blaming Abbott for all and everything!

And the obligatory BIG image sans attached blurb:

debra9275 · ‎16-01-2015

i had a friend from Mauritius whose father was a doctor over there. When they moved here, his father was a taxi driver. I assume foreign doctors have to go through more training here before they can practise? In his case though, he had young family to support so just had to put food on the table. This is going back quite a few years

polksaladallie · ‎16-01-2015

@debra9275 wrote:
so the enemy are - asylum seekers, muslims, people on welfare, disabled people, unionists, now doctors lol

have I left any out? foreigners too??

I have noticed that some foreigners seem to be desperately unhappy, bile flowing at every opportunity, ill actually. They might be happier if they went back to their old countries.