on 20-04-2014 10:21 PM
As it's more than 100 days now, it has been suggested that a new thread was needed. The current govt has been breaking promises and telling lies at a rate so fast it's hard to keep up.
This below is worrying, "independent" pffft, as if your own doctor is somehow what? biased, it's ridiculous. So far there is talk of only including people under a certain age 30-35, for now. Remember that if your injured in a car, injured at work or get ill, you too might need to go on the DSP. They have done a similar think in the UK with devastating consequences.
and this is the 2nd time recently where the Govt has referred to work as welfare???? So when you go to work tomorrow (or tuesday), just remember that's welfare.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-20/disability-pensioners-may-be-reassessed-kevin-andrews/5400598
Independent doctors could be called in to reassess disability pensioners, Federal Government says
The Federal Government is considering using independent doctors to examine disability pensioners and assess whether they should continue to receive payments.
Currently family doctors provide reports supporting claims for the Disability Support Pension (DSP).
But Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews is considering a measure that would see independent doctors reassess eligibility.
"We are concerned that where people can work, the best form of welfare is work," Mr Andrews said at a press conference.
on 23-05-2015 09:44 AM
@debra9275 wrote:idlewhite wrote-
Correct, but that won't stop the cheap anti Catholic hate squad from trying to discredit an innocent person.
Shorten is also Catholic idlewhite--- so there goes that argument
I agree with Shortens views , that pell should appear though if he does appear by video link , at least that is something
abbott on the other hand seems to be trying to protect Pell
some things in life are just beyond defence imo
Catholic hate and a chance to make a cheap political shot is all I see on here, in fact its all about excoriating bias on here. As for Shorten, better not to mention the rape and abuse of women then.
on 23-05-2015 09:46 AM
sorry but you must be seeing something I don't- what Catholic hatred???
it's what's been done in the name of the Catholic church by a few that is the indefencible problem
on 23-05-2015 09:58 AM - last edited on 23-05-2015 04:14 PM by gewens
@idlewhile wrote:
@debra9275 wrote:
idlewhite wrote-
Correct, but that won't stop the cheap anti Catholic hate squad from trying to discredit an innocent person.
Shorten is also Catholic idlewhite--- so there goes that argument
I agree with Shortens views , that pell should appear though if he does appear by video link , at least that is something
abbott on the other hand seems to be trying to protect Pell
some things in life are just beyond defence imo
Catholic hate and a chance to make a cheap political shot is all I see on here, in fact its all about excoriating bias on here. As for Shorten, better not to mention the rape and abuse of women then.
It was MM who made the cheap political shot. As for Shorten and your comments, you never miss an opportunity to raise the issue of the rape allegation. It achieves nothing.
on 23-05-2015 10:17 AM
@alexander*beetle wrote:
@idlewhile wrote:
@debra9275 wrote:idlewhite wrote-
Correct, but that won't stop the cheap anti Catholic hate squad from trying to discredit an innocent person.
Shorten is also Catholic idlewhite--- so there goes that argument
I agree with Shortens views , that pell should appear though if he does appear by video link , at least that is something
abbott on the other hand seems to be trying to protect Pell
some things in life are just beyond defence imo
Catholic hate and a chance to make a cheap political shot is all I see on here, in fact its all about excoriating bias on here. As for Shorten, better not to mention the rape and abuse of women then.
It was MM who made the cheap political shot so I don't see why you are attacking Debra. As for Shorten and your comments, you never miss an opportunity to raise the issue of the rape allegation. It achieves nothing.
Apparently it achieved a response from you
Shorten is a known women abuser, a man who has no moral fibre who abuses women he feels are beneath him, shop keepers, aides, previous relationships and the rape of a teenager.
"I believe" he is beneath contempt and if it was a Lib with a rap sheet like his you would take every opportunity to discuss it, make sure it's never forgotten like all of you have done with the "punching a wall" incident that never happened.
on 23-05-2015 10:22 AM
abbott is no angel either , he has a few skeletons in his closet as has already been discussed
but what's all this got to do with the RC??
on 23-05-2015 10:36 AM
I believe" he is beneath contempt and if it was a Lib with a rap sheet like his you would take every opportunity to discuss it, make sure it's never forgotten like all of you have done with the "punching a wall" incident that never happened.
Every time someone pops up and accuses Barbara Ramjan of lying over the infamous university incident when Tony Abbott flew his fists into a wall, there has been a handsome apology to her.
on 23-05-2015 10:40 AM - last edited on 23-05-2015 12:11 PM by li.varia
you don't seem to have a very good grasp of the law
it was alleged by a woman who broke her story very publicly on social media. he was never charged , so there was no proof of her allegation
abbott has a pretty long list of things that I wouldn't call commendable, so I wouldn't be throwing too many stones if I were you
23-05-2015 11:04 AM - edited 23-05-2015 11:04 AM
you prove what you're saying about Shorten then- the police who investigated it obviously couldn't
you can google the wall punching incident and more if you wish
both shorten and abbott have skeletons in the closet, neither of them are angels
on 23-05-2015 11:12 AM
@idlewhile wrote:Prove it.
And "flew his fists into a wall" OMG
couldn't you find another more horrific descriptor, "Flew his fists into a wall" laughable, I wonder if he "hurt the poor wall", not like the young girl Shorten ruined though is it? a lot differernt to "hurting a wall" to raping a young girl isn't it?
Idlewhile you are obviously very angry about this and if you have evidence that the police and authorities do not have, perhaps you need to take that back to the police for further investigation. Otherwise your comments are purely malicious.
on 23-05-2015 11:20 AM
@alexander*beetle wrote:
@idlewhile wrote:Prove it.
And "flew his fists into a wall" OMG
couldn't you find another more horrific descriptor, "Flew his fists into a wall" laughable, I wonder if he "hurt the poor wall", not like the young girl Shorten ruined though is it? a lot differernt to "hurting a wall" to raping a young girl isn't it?
Idlewhile you are obviously very angry about this and if you have evidence that the police and authorities do not have, perhaps you need to take that back to the police for further investigation. Otherwise your comments are purely malicious.
I didn't utter the ludicrous "flew his fists into a wall" so one wonders why you are "flying" to the defence of a post I was addressing.
As for the angry remark you so impetuously tag me with in your undignified haste to admonish me? you don't know me do you? you have no idea what i'm feeling do you? you just want to inflame a response from me which I'm sorry to inform you that all you'll get from me is a guffaw