Diary of our stinking Govt.

[boris1gary]

As it's more than 100 days now, it has been suggested that a new thread was needed.  The current govt has been breaking promises and telling lies at a rate so fast it's hard to keep up.

This below is worrying, "independent" pffft, as if your own doctor is somehow what? biased, it's ridiculous. So far there is talk of only including people under a certain age 30-35, for now. Remember that if your injured in a car, injured at work or get ill, you too might need to go on the DSP. They have done a similar think in the UK with devastating consequences.

and this is the 2nd time recently where the Govt has referred to work as welfare???? So when you go to work tomorrow (or tuesday), just remember that's welfare.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-20/disability-pensioners-may-be-reassessed-kevin-andrews/5400598

Independent doctors could be called in to reassess disability pensioners, Federal Government says

The Federal Government is considering using independent doctors to examine disability pensioners and assess whether they should continue to receive payments.

Currently family doctors provide reports supporting claims for the Disability Support Pension (DSP).

But Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews is considering a measure that would see independent doctors reassess eligibility.

"We are concerned that where people can work, the best form of welfare is work," Mr Andrews said at a press conference.

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Thanks Icy.

It was the Tom Robinson Band I was thinking of.
They provided a stencil to stencil it on your gear.

[cherry*135]

New to posting on forums?

[cherry*135]

MAN WITH TERMINAL ILLNESS TOLD TO LOOK FOR WORK

Diagnosed with a malignant tumour, John Grayson has been told to look for work.

John Grayson doesn't want to waste the last two years of his life filling out forms at Centrelink.

The 33-year-old's worst fears were confirmed on Christmas Eve when he received news that he had a rare stage 3 malignant brain tumour.

Prior to his initial diagnosis in November, finding a full-time engineering job had been at the top of his priority list.

His priorities have changed dramatically since, but it seems as far as federal government bureaucrats are concerned he still needs to look for work if he wants to receive the Newstart allowance.

"As I am trying to come to terms with all of this, one thing is driving me incredibly crazy – the strict requirements of the Disability Support Pension," Mr Grayson said.

"[Newstart appointments] are very time costly, which I have so little of. I'd much rather be visiting friends and relatives before I die," he said.

"The idea of a terminally ill person having to go out and look for a job feels like a kick in the groin."

In addition to documenting his search for work, he is required to visit employment agencies at Newcastle and Charlestown each week.

Because he is still relatively physically healthy and hasn't begun radiotherapy treatment, he is not classified as disabled and is ineligible for the Disability Support Pension (DSP).

He was told last week the type of cancer he has (an extremely rare malignant ganglioglioma tumour) means he doesn't qualify to be fast-tracked onto the pension via an amendment designed for people who have been diagnosed with a terminal illness.

Although still capable of working, his mental health has deteriorated considerably.

Ironically he now stands a better chance of qualifying for the disability support pension if he is diagnosed with depression rather than cancer.

"I was at Centrelink with my mother and they said because you are [physically] healthy you don't qualify for the DSP via cancer, you are going to have to look at mental health.

Mr Grayson said he was supportive of the government's attempts to prioritise welfare payments to those most in need, however, he believes unemployed people with terminal illnesses deserve special consideration.

"I hope Scott Morrison in his new capacity [as social services minister] can perhaps rework some empathy into the DSP requirements for the terminally ill," Mr Grayson said.

The federal government did not respond to the Newcastle Herald's questions about Mr Grayson's case.

Cancer Council Hunter regional manager Shayne Connell said the organisation was lobbying to have the Disability Support Pension eligibility requirements changed.

"It a crazy situation; there is a desperate need to build in some flexibility for people with terminal illnesses," Mr Connell said.

"The last thing someone with a terminal needs to be doing is running around looking for a job."

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/nsw/man-with-terminal-illness-told-to-look-for-work-20150103-12hisn....

[debra9275]

so Icy, out of curiousity, what policies would you like to see the senate agree to, that would be of benefit to Australia and Australians??

as I mentioned earlier, Clive Palmer and TA traded the mining tax for a slightly watered down policy on financial advisors and super

that I personally don't see as beneficial to any Australian citizens, but perhaps you have a different view to mine?

[cherry*135]

The Australian

Jan 3

Support the Coalition’s border protection policies and there is no room for adhering to international treaty obligations. There can be no debate about the need to put a lens on practices within offshore detention centres because to do so could “weaken” our resolve in the eyes of people-smugglers.

If Liberals want to continue to deny entry for so-called “queue jumpers”, they should withdraw Australian endorsement of international asylum-seeker conventions that stipulate our processing and turn-back policies are illegal.

They should also pursue a regional solution with non-signatory nations, such as Indonesia, Malaysia, Sri Lanka and Thailand. Perhaps then the successful short-term tactics would be followed up with long-term solutions.

The danger for Abbott is that the parliamentary Liberal Party is far more moderate on paper than he is. A traditional conservative, Abbott doesn’t have that many allies. He is outnumbered in a way John Howard never was.

[icyfroth]

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@debra9275 wrote:

and does that policy that Palmer helped abbott pass benefit all Australians???

how??  when the deal effects ordinary Australian's super funds

perhaps they should call a DD to fix the problem, people will be wiser now and clearer on what they're voting for

No-one would be wiser or clearer. The party they voted in to close down the circus that was the Labor party has let them down.

You think they want to go back to another Labor party circus? That has not yet recovered and has put forward a leader that is an accused rapist, adulterer and discredited union official and has no policies apart from blocking the current government?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Senate

the LNP when in opposition also blocked bills, that's what the opposition does

Exactly. And when Abbotts government has been brought down and ALP has been reinstated, you think the LNP isn't going to get their own back?

You think the Australian voter doesn't see that?

Do you people even realise how unstable Australia's governments have become through this constant turn and turn about of the ALP and the LNP?

Then again, judging by the comments by the ALP supporters here, probably have no thought beyond making disgusting comments about the PM, his family, and his personal pecadilloes.

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[icyfroth]

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@debra9275 wrote:

so Icy, out of curiousity, what policies would you like to see the senate agree to, that would be of benefit to Australia and Australians??

as I mentioned earlier, Clive Palmer and TA traded the mining tax for a slightly watered down policy on financial advisors and super

that I personally don't see as beneficial to any Australian citizens, but perhaps you have a different view to mine?

Perhaps? You think? 

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[cherry*135]

99.9% of the comments in this thread )5000+ posts) are about the Govt's policies and failed measures. Not personal comments about Abbott.

Pre last election this forum was flooded for a very long time with PERSONAL attacks on JG hair, body shape, partner. Many separate threads which upset those posters with no interest in politics.

Repeating the same unfactual comebacks over and over don't make them true.

[debra9275]

do you honestly think that if the LNP were currently in oppostion that that would not be blocking bills. they tried to block everything last time, and then look what they did to Peter Slipper because he gave the gillard govt, a majority of one, Not that I think much of Peter Slipper, but the whole affair was dirty and sordid

No-one would be wiser or clearer. The party they voted in to close down the circus that was the Labor party has let them down.

You think they want to go back to another Labor party circus? That has not yet recovered and has put forward a leader that is an accused rapist, adulterer and discredited union official anhas no policies apart from blocking the current government?

and now the the LNP has let everyone down &only a few months in. I must admit that in the beginning I was open minded to them as I thought they would show that they had changed, but they are actually much worse than I thought they'd be

abbott is a good sledger, he showed us that when he was in opposition with his slogans like "ditch the witch" but I doubt he would stay on as opposition leader next time. Too embarrassing for him.

I still cannot find any policies that I think benefit the Australian people, can you and what are they?

[debra9275]

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@debra9275 wrote:

so Icy, out of curiousity, what policies would you like to see the senate agree to, that would be of benefit to Australia and Australians??

as I mentioned earlier, Clive Palmer and TA traded the mining tax for a slightly watered down policy on financial advisors and super

that I personally don't see as beneficial to any Australian citizens, but perhaps you have a different view to mine?

Perhaps? You think? 

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OK, so what are the policies you think are beneficial??