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As it's more than 100 days now, it has been suggested that a new thread was needed.  The current govt has been breaking promises and telling lies at a rate so fast it's hard to keep up.Woman Happy

 

This below is worrying, "independent" pffft, as if your own doctor is somehow what? biased, it's ridiculous. So far there is talk of only including people under a certain age 30-35, for now. Remember that if your injured in a car, injured at work or get ill, you too might need to go on the DSP. They have done a similar think in the UK with devastating consequences.

 

and this is the 2nd time recently where the Govt has referred to work as welfare???? So when you go to work tomorrow (or tuesday), just remember that's welfare.

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-20/disability-pensioners-may-be-reassessed-kevin-andrews/5400598

 

Independent doctors could be called in to reassess disability pensioners, Federal Government says

 

The Federal Government is considering using independent doctors to examine disability pensioners and assess whether they should continue to receive payments.

 

Currently family doctors provide reports supporting claims for the Disability Support Pension (DSP).

But Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews is considering a measure that would see independent doctors reassess eligibility.

 

"We are concerned that where people can work, the best form of welfare is work," Mr Andrews said at a press conference.

 

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interesting article re welfare reform out this morning found here.

 

AUSTRALIA’S disability support pension would be abolished for anyone not suffering a permanent disability under proposed Government reforms.

The McClure Report into welfare will recommend all other disability pension recipients be moved to a new, temporary “working age entitlement” in a move that is expected to force many thousands into the workforce.

“My concern is that for too long, many people get on to a DSP and then government tends to forget about them,” Federal Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews said.

 

OPINION: STOP RORTS BUT DON’T DISMISS THOSE IN NEED

Warning the nation’s welfare system is a complex mess of payments, supplements and confusing income tests, welfare expert Patrick McClure will outline sweeping changes in a report commissioned by the Federal Government.

Mr Andrews said he was concerned the disability support pension had become a “set and forget” payment.

“I have asked Mr McClure to look at what can be done to simplify the welfare system and get those with a capacity to work back into the jobs market,” he said.

The McClure report includes calls for tax reform for all Australians, warning the interaction of personal income tax and means-tested welfare payments can reduce rewards for working and diminish incentive to work.

For the disabled, he suggests a new working age payment for people who have some capacity to work and bridge the gap between the DSP that pays people more than the dole. The report calls for the DSP to be quarantined as “only for people with a permanent impairment”.

 

“People with disability who have current or future capacity to work could be assisted through the tiered working age payment to better reflect different work capacities,’’ the report states.

“Within the working age payment, different tiers of payment could take account of individual circumstances, such as partial capacity to work, parental responsibilities or limitations on availability for work because of caring.

“Recipients of higher rates could include single parents, people with disability and a partial capacity to work, and others with a significant barrier to full-time employment.”

 

Crucially, the report also suggests adjustments to family payments can be justified on the grounds of extra assistance being provided under the new paid parental leave scheme and in the case of the DSP, the new National Disability Insurance Scheme.

Originally published as Work for those on disability support pension

 

 

 

 

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/back-to-work-disability-support-pension-on-the-scrapheap/story-fni0...Another

 

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I think this came out in Howards timne orignally going by the last sentence? Also I was under the understanding you have to have a permenant disability in order to access DSP. 

 

Anyone have more info on that?

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Opinion piece in the HS

Stop rorts but don't dismiss those who are truly in need

Not everyone on the Disability Support Pension is a bludger, a shirker or a fantasist, wr

Not everyone on the Disability Support Pension is a bludger, a shirker or a fantasist, writes Samantha Maiden.

BASHING up disability support pensioners as an army of bludgers has become a national sport with painful consequences for deserving recipients.

Families with disabled children who have no other choice but to rely on the DSP don’t need a “tough love’’ cure. They need people to stop suggesting their kids are bludgers when they struggle, in many cases, every day of their lives.

Endless debate about reducing payments or changing the system has provoked enormous anxiety for those families.

It’s one of the reasons why many will applaud welfare expert Patrick McClure’s call today for the current system to be effectively abolished in favour of a scheme that covers only the permanently and seriously disabled.

Cleaning up the mess of welfare payments in Australia is not just about saving money. It should also be about public confidence in the system and certainty for vulnerable people who rely on it.

In a report to be released on Sunday, McClure will propose a new system that reserves the DSP for adults with no capacity for work.

It would involve kicking hundreds of thousands of Australians off the DSP system. But they would not be left without support. Instead, they would secure a working age payment and support for getting back into the workforce when they are ready.

McClure is proposing a tiered working age payment to replace the DSP. It would bridge the gap between the dole or Newstart and the DSP. Rather than a “set and forget’’ payment, the idea that it is a temporary payment for a temporary disability would be upfront.

 

That’s an important shift.

The goal is ending the perverse incentive to “get on’’ the DSP because it pays recipients more than the dole and attracts less mutual obligation to look for work.

Currently, you can secure up to $800 a fortnight on the DSP. That compares with up to $500 on unemployment benefits.

The system that McClure is proposing would create a middle ground between the dole and the DSP for people who are not permanently disabled.

For some people on the dole who did not qualify for the DSP but do suffer from anxiety or depression it may involve extra payments and support.

 

It’s an idea that Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews will now ask Australians to debate as the Government prepares next steps in the welfare reform agenda.

Currently, there are a startling 830,000 working age Australians living on DSP payments.

It’s something of a myth that it’s easy to get on the DSP. Labor and Liberal governments have tightened eligibility. But an ageing population is a big factor.

Some suggest the DSP is something of a de facto retirement option for older Australians too young to claim the aged pension. That is a problem the Government must address now as it confronts an ageing population and even greater pressures on the DSP.

 

A Commission of Audit report released in May said the big drivers of growth on the DSP are rising numbers of women qualifying since partner-related payments including the wife pension and widow allowance were closed down, the widening gap between the DSP and the unemployment benefit, and increases to the age pension age.

Over the past decade the number of people claiming the DSP on the basis of psychological illness has also increased by 90,000 to 256,380. Once, the most common complaint was bad backs and musculoskeletal problems. But that’s been falling in recent years with anxiety, depression and schizophrenia rising.

THERE’S little doubt some Australians are rorting the system. News that some of the jihadists living out toy soldier fantasies in the real battlefields of the Middle East were declared “disabled” by the system is an indictment on the status quo. But we shouldn’t besmirch the reputations of the disabled in calling for necessary reforms.

Not everyone on the DSP is a bludger, a shirker or a fantasist. In many cases, psychological illness can be a debilitating barrier to finding and holding on to a job.

We also should not kid ourselves that these reforms will save money in the short term.

Welfare reform is expensive and providing the long-term unemployed with the training many need to be attractive to employers is not cheap.

 

Armchair experts can forget it if they think kicking a few thousand rorters off the DSP will fix the deficit. The growing burden of Australia’s ageing population and the ballooning aged pension bill is a bigger problem.

Finally, there’s another big reason why bashing up DSP recipients is counterproductive.

Many employers are already reluctant to hire people with a disability. By arguing that everyone on the DSP is a bludger, critics are creating another barrier to people with a temporary disability getting back into the workforce. That would be a perverse outcome.

By stopping the rorts, the Abbott Government will give deserving recipients the dignity they deserve.

samantha.maiden@news.com.au

Originally published as Stop rorts but don’t dismiss those in need

 

 

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/stop-rorts-but-dont-dismiss-those-who-are-truly-in-need/sto...

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more bad news for the disabled, at least if you live in NSW 

 

TAFE cuts threaten disabled student enrolments

 

Forecasts in the NSW budget that enrolments of disabled students at TAFE will fall by 2000 next year, reversing a trend of rising enrolments since 2011, have alarmed disability groups.

 

Labor’s disability services spokeswoman Barbara Perry said the fall in enrolments is caused by funding cuts and Education Minister Adrian Piccoli told parliament he had pulled $1 billion out of the TAFE system.



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/tafe-cuts-threaten-disabled-student-enrolments-20140628-zspe3.html#ixzz35z...

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Bella, I find the whole thing very worrying - that Mclure report was done with no input from any welfare group or frontline service providers. All these "reports" that this govt have been funding are so obvioulsy stacked to say exactly what the govt wants to hear and in the odd occassion where they don't the govt ignores that part anyway...I have't read all of it - can't bear it at the minute but this sentence is concerning...

 

It’s one of the reasons why many will applaud welfare expert Patrick McClure’s call today for the current system to be effectively abolished in favour of a scheme that covers only the permanently and seriously disabled.

 


who decides this "permanently and seriously disabled", will it be like workers compensation where legalese replaces medical and people are assessed used percentages - those % are ridiculous and have nothing to do with medical and everything to do with legal. How disabled is disabled enough - it sickens me that people will so happily turn on each other and start running around talking about rorters and cheats when it comes to the most vulnerable in our country yet almost complete silence on the real rorters and cheats because...well they are just soooo rich and fabulous. It's almost like our new national sport - kick the poor, the aged and the disabled - and smile while your doing it. 

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Not good Boris, not good at all. I really don't think the government has thought about the ramifications of such a policy.  Why does the NDIS make any difference.  It is no different to the disability package many receive now in Vic anyway  which is mostly useless and grossly inadequate to meet the needs of the disabled.

 

Why do they think the NDIS equates to more funding?  When the reality is in areas where the NDIS has been rolled out many are getting less from their packages. The NDIS is not a reason to reduce access to disability services, its an excuse for the government to save money.  But its all short term because in the long term it will cost them far more.

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Bella, just what we will be left with when this mob is finished trashing everything that has made Australia great....and now the plans for the dismantling of the federation, the wish list of the IPA is being met wish by wish...everything will be for private profiteering and we will be at the very bottom of whats important....we can't get rid of this mob quick enough.

 

capitalism-on-steroids boasts of the virtues and rigour of a global market economy, privatisation, deregulation and free trade, demanding nothing less in return than the systematic destruction of the institutions of the sovereign nation state. With all resources, (labour, minerals, food, water, air, you-name-it) surrendered to private capital, and services (finance, welfare, healthcare, education, etc) supplied by private industry, the problem reduces to an elegant equation.

 

http://theaimn.com/truth-trashers/

 

SOCIAL DISSERVICE MINISTER KEVIN ANDREWS“With the population ageing at the rate that it is, we’ve got to ensure in the future that we’re able to sustain the welfare system, otherwise we’ll find ourselves in 10 or 15 years’ time in the situation that some of the countries in Europe are in.”

 

Australia currently has the fourth-lowest level of public pension spending of any OECD country and is projected by 2050 to have the third-lowest level of pension spending.

 

OECD data shows Australia is “relatively low in terms of social security and around average in the terms of spending on health”.

 

In 2013 Australia’s public spending on the age pension was 3.5 per cent of GDP.  Many European countries spend a significantly higher percentage on age pensions. Italy spends 15 per cent of GDP, France 14 per cent, Belgium 10 per cent, Sweden 8 per cent and the United Kingdom 6 per cent.

 

The 2010 Intergenerational Report says government spending on pensions and income support payments in 2009-10 was 6.9 per cent of GDP. It predicts that there will be minor fluctuations and it will still be 6.9 per cent in 2049-50.

 

The report says Australia is facing an increase in age-related spending by 2050, but more in health and aged care services than in welfare payments.  Over the same period, spending on other welfare programs – unemployment benefits, widow pensions, parenting payments, carer payments and study allowances – is expected to fall.

 

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I don't know if its any comfort Boris but I did hear on the ABC that the government will be looking for feedback over the proposed changes, I'm not sure what the point of that is, as the government seem hell bent on kicking the vulnerable in the guts and plunging them into further poverty.

 

As for the permanently disabled, I am not sure what that covers as my understanding was that you had to have a permanent condition to even qualify for DSP.  Which begs the question, how disabled to do they have to be?The other issue is most of these people will not pass the medicals for work anyway meaning it will be close to impossible to find employment.  Let alone the other challenges they face.

 

I also wasn't sure if they were adding carers to the whole scenario.  I noted one of the comments from readers  was that carers have it easy and stay at home 24/7.  Which made me laugh because that is why the get the payment in the first place because the person they are caring for requires 24/7 care.

 

People really don't have a clue as the life these people face, if its not in their family they do not want to know.  It's sad because as a society we are losing our empathy and compassion for those less fortunate and making it about the almighty mighty dollar.

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Couldn't agree more Boris with your comments.  Sadly the compassionate society we once had in Australia is changing.  The attitude from those who are well off is that the reforms are great.  Because it does not affect them.   I worry about the future for my special needs children, I worry that their life will be one of extreme poverty because they do not have the capacity to support themselves.

 

As for those who would point out that the government will continue to support the most disabled, it will still plunge them below the poverty line. If I hadn't have taken years away from employment to care for them then I might at least have super.  I don't even have that.  So the future financially for us is bleak unless I leave them at home unattended at risk so I can work.  Of course what parent does that. Yet I still consider myself better off than most in some regards.

 

Yet many will be faced with that impossible decision, leaving kids at home so they can work. What you will find is an increase of children entering the child protection system, more desperate people turning to crime to feed themselves and an ever increasing rate of crime and social problems Australia wide.

 

Why those who have no concept will continue to blame the poor and continue to live their comfortable lives while blissfully living in ignorance. Until it happens to them..

 

 

 

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omg, ever have that "please make it stop" feeling, i have it everyday with this sad excuse of an "adult government"...there are no jobs, unemployment is rising, jobs are going every day - HOW ABOUT SOME JOB CREATION......

 

Thousands to lose Disability Support Pension under changes flagged by government

 

It adds that "people with disability who have current or future capacity to work could be assisted through the tiered working age payment to better reflect different work capacities".

 

On Sunday, Labor slammed the Disability Support Pension idea. 

 

"I am sick of opening the Sunday paper every week and seeing Mr Andrews demonising disabled people," Shadow Treasurer Chris Bowen told ABC's Insiders program. 

 

"Labor supports measures to help people on the Disability Support Pension back into work where it's possible and appropriate ... What we don't support is cutting people's benefits on disability support in some brutal and blunt effort to force them back into inappropriate jobs."

 

In the May budget, the government announced plans to increase the age at which people can access the Newstart payment from 22 to 25.

 

Continuing this theme, the paper says that consideration should also be given to "when young people would access income support in their own right".

 

In an interview with Channel Ten on Sunday, Mr Andrews also flagged that young people on welfare may have their income managed by the government. 

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/thousands-to-lose-disability-support-pension-under-changes-fl...




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