on 08-01-2014 06:32 PM
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Do you object to BAG INSPECTIONS at stores?
Do you object to staff asking to inspect your bag? (they are only doing their job)
Will you shop at a store that asks to inspect your bag or will you go elsewhere?
Do bag inspections and security checks help to stop shop lifting and keep prices down?
If you object WHY?
Do you think that objecting to a bag inspection makes a person look guilty or they are guilty?
Rememer that its a condition of entry at just about every major /medium/small store in Australia
on 10-01-2014 06:59 PM
@purple_haize wrote:And according to the police, the shop can not force you to show your bags & if they keep you there while they call the cops..........and it turns out you have nothing to hide, you can take the shop to court.................those words straight from a policeman who my daughter knows.
Even the shop security guy has no authority to hold a customer unless they have proof that the customer took something.......
That is true purple. Would you go down that route though.. refuse to show your bag, get detained wrongly and take them to court?
How would that affect your life?
on 10-01-2014 07:02 PM
@acacia_pycnantha wrote:Like I said, that so many people accept bag checks as a normal part of shopping and willingly submit and comply, (despite there being no legal basis to enforce it) is rather depressing and a little bit scary.
Like I said, that is your view. You can't speak for others.
I must have been in thousands of shops, been requested to show my shopping bag less than 10 times probably.. oh how that makes me depressed and scared.
CCTV is watching us now in stores... oh how invasive.. next they will be pointing cameras in our house windows...............
on 10-01-2014 07:05 PM
@purple_haize wrote:And according to the police, the shop can not force you to show your bags & if they keep you there while they call the cops..........and it turns out you have nothing to hide, you can take the shop to court.................those words straight from a policeman who my daughter knows.
Even the shop security guy has no authority to hold a customer unless they have proof that the customer took something.......
Finally someone who has been given the correct info, and clearly if you have nothing they have acted outside of the law and libel to pay damages if they detain you without cause, and refusal to open a bag is not just cause.
on 10-01-2014 07:08 PM
@*ibis wrote:get back to her gestapo-tactics
prove our honesty to officious shop assisants
only obeying orders
thoroughly cowed and intimidated shoppers on this thread
tolerating opression as a matter of course
acceptance of oppression
normalises oppression for others in society
geez
Papieren, bitte!
10-01-2014 07:10 PM - edited 10-01-2014 07:11 PM
@the_hawk* wrote:
@purple_haize wrote:And according to the police, the shop can not force you to show your bags & if they keep you there while they call the cops..........and it turns out you have nothing to hide, you can take the shop to court.................those words straight from a policeman who my daughter knows.
Even the shop security guy has no authority to hold a customer unless they have proof that the customer took something.......
Finally someone who has been given the correct info, and clearly if you have nothing they have acted outside of the law and libel to pay damages if they detain you without cause, and refusal to open a bag is not just cause.
That has been already mentioned in this thread. I am certainly aware of it and have been for years.
Being asked to show your bag doesn't automatically mean if you refuse a security person is going to appear in an instant and try and detain you.
How many people here have refused a bag check and the immediate result is store security person turning up to try to detain them???????????????
on 10-01-2014 07:11 PM
legal or otherwise, if a shop asks to look in my bag i will let them. to me its no big deal, its their shop
on 10-01-2014 07:12 PM
@am*3 wrote:There is nothing 'sheepie' in being compliant.
I had no idea whether people do or don't object to store bag policy before this thread. I make my own decisions.
Funny how it is the males that are so obstreperous on this bag check policy. I bet they don't go shopping as much as the people who aren't fazed by bag check policies.
I dont think its a male thing at all, I have been a nice compliant sheeple all my life trying to do the right thing until I found out how uncaring and corrupt the system is as I have gotten older and it really doesn't care about the masses.
and yes I have an attitude, but as they say, it comes from experence
10-01-2014 07:13 PM - edited 10-01-2014 07:14 PM
@*ibis wrote:legal or otherwise, if a shop asks to look in my bag i will let them. to me its no big deal, its their shop
Finally someone sees common sense. No, not really, that is the opinion of the majority of posters that have posted in this thread.
Let's start refusing to show our bags eh? Then we might get detained. Then we can sue the store and make lots of money.
on 10-01-2014 07:14 PM
Omg you think ppl intent on stealing stuff aren't on the alert for the bag-checking lady at the store exit?
There are all sorts of ways of escaping detection as in putting it under your jumper or stuffing it in your undies or giving it to your toddler to walk out with it. Sheesh!
If they want to look in my bag and they ask me nicely, I let them. Most times I walk out of the store and if they don't ask , I don't show.
God what a kerfuffle "eek it's an invasion of privacy" shock horror!!!!
Get over it, it's the times we live in!
on 10-01-2014 07:17 PM
That ex-Liberal MP that got caught for shop-lifting (twice) had stolen goods in her bag.. just as well store staff asked to check it.. she may still be out there doing the same thing otherwise.