Do you think Gay Marriage leads to

[donnashuggy]

Beast....iality

How embarrassing for the Liberal Party.  😄

Does anyone actually agree with Bernadi?

[bella_again]

Its  difficult one we are catering for roughly0.2% in 96,  0.4% (2001 ABS I think!) of the population here,so reports say in figures that's 33,714 (2012)of people who have reported being in a same sex relationship. Others argue there are far more out, but that they are too scared to admit to it (I don't know why no one you know  sees your census paper), however that's the ABS figures so we go by them

Now I am not saying that there are not issues to address here but it is a minority group and does not represent the majority of Australians. I've never known a minority group  to have so much attention I mean seriously it needs to be dealt with and society needs to move on there are much larger groups of society  that need that kind of attention and assistance.

It seems to me there is an agenda here, as to whether it leads to other things I think the argument there is that there is a breakdown in our morality and the more we compromise the more our morality  erodes from a conservative view, perhaps that's where they are coming from?

I do think as I said above that there are some very real issues here that need addressing for same sex couples.  I don't agree with the way we are going as a society in a lot of areas nor is this a lifestyle I'd pursue  but regardless of my view these are very real people who have feelings, who matter and do need support in our culture.

[monman12]

LL: ".......and yes Donna, cory and tone are good mates"
Interesting LL, some evidence would be good, not that DY needs any when firing!

".......Abbott and his office think Bernardi is “a total liability” and “even the conservative wing finds him to be a complete screwball”. Abbott was not available to comment."

I would guess that being myopic is not a disadvantage  when taking aim!

[poddster]

:^O

[donnashuggy]

I guess we will find out when Abbott gives him a ministry position John.

How are your flying lessons going BTW? 😄

[***super_nova***]

Now I am not saying that there are not issues to address here but it is a minority group and does not represent the majority of Australians.

It seems to me there is an agenda here, as to whether it leads to other things I think the argument there is that there is a breakdown in our morality and the more we compromise the more our morality  erodes from a conservative view, perhaps that's where they are coming from?

Just because somebody is a member of a minority does not mean they deserve to be discriminated against.  And how on earth has anybody come to the conclusion that gay people who want to confirm their long term stable relationship by getting married, will erode morality?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

People of the same sex getting married has no impact on the rest of us.  And yes, it is quite possible that some tiny group of people will in the future try to claim that the b.......y is OK, or want polygamy legalised: BUT that has nothing to do with legalising gay marriage.

As far as I know, the suggestion that the legal age of consent should be lowered was made because the fact is that kids now are having sex younger and younger.  It was not suggested that adult should be able to have a sex with a child, but if 2 kids have sex and one is just over and the other under the age, the older one can be at present charged. 

[poddster]

In fact John, it is a distinct advantage in pistol shooting, being short sighted forces the shooper to focus in the sights and not oscillate between target and sights.

It is more important havave a good "sight picture" than seeing the target clearly and the sights out of focus 

[bella_again]

Super you've mis read my post I never said that was my opinion read it again I was responding to another post further down about the gentleman making the comments.  And as I said I am not saying there are issues that shouldn't be addressed.

Th e nly opinion I stated was that this is a minority group of 33,00 people who get a LOT of attention if you re read I said deal with it basically and move on there are so many other things that need our attention.  I said that I would not pursue that life style but that those who do matter. 

I have no idea where the bit about underage sex comes into it?

I think you are reading it with a bias but anyway.

[***super_nova***]

Bella, I have just responded to a statement in your post.  You posted it, so obviously it is your opinion.  The second paragraph was responding to the different post above.  🙂

Just because only so many people admitted being in same sex relationships in the particular point of time (census night) does not mean that the number reflects how many people in the community are gay.  There are many who may have been in a relationship before, many who hope to form long term relationship in the future.  But in any case 33 000 sounds ridiculously low; are you sure that was not just for one state?  Gallup poll indicated that it is 3.4 % of the Australian population = 748 000 out of 22 000 000. However, it is not relevant how many people are discriminated against; nobody should be discriminated against.  And the moment Australia follows the large number of countries, which have already legalised gay marriage, the issue will be gone and will not receive any more attention.

[bella_again]

Yes but I didn't say anyone should be discriminated against at all I basically made an observation that's all, read into it as you like. I don't agree with many lifestyles however regardless of life style people matter. I merely state the gentleman in question may have been looking at it from a conservative point of view.  I didn't say he was right or wrong and he to is entitled to his opinion even if I don't agree just as you are 🙂

I don't discriminate against anyone and won't be told just because I disagree with something  that I am.

[bella_again]

with the figures I got them off the ABS website so hang on a sec and I will have a look 🙂