Do you think taxpayers should subsidise unprofitable businesses?

Do you think taxpayers should subsidise unprofitable businesses or should a business stand on its own structure and merit?

 

 

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Do you think taxpayers should subsidise unprofitable businesses?

Subsidise as in the mining industry?
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Do you think taxpayers should subsidise unprofitable businesses?

Subsidised as in any.

I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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Do you think taxpayers should subsidise unprofitable businesses?

a friend of mine used to have a small business making chilli sauce and corn chips.

he had 3 staff.

he could see that the company was becoming unprofitable so he closed it down

 

should he have asked the government for money? what would the answer have been?


 

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Do you think taxpayers should subsidise unprofitable businesses?

No, I don't think taxpayers should subsidise unprofitable businesses. If the demand from consumers isn't there for its products, if they can't compete because the AUD is to high etc.. Govt handouts. not going to fix their problems especially in the long term.

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Do you think taxpayers should subsidise unprofitable businesses?

I, and no doubt others here have been in a situation where their business fell on hard times and in most cases they survived and prospered by employing various methods without relying on a hand-out.

 

 

I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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Do you think taxpayers should subsidise unprofitable businesses?

For me, it would depend why the businesses in question had become unprofitable

 

What I would like to see is reimposition of import duties

 

I'd like the governments (State and Federal) to quit pandering to overseas interests and invest in Australian start-ups, instead of making it prohibitively expensive for Aussies to get manufacturing up and running.  White goods for example.  We used to be served pretty well by Aussie white-goods manufacturers and their products were generally good value for money.  There are houses all over this country which still have the old Simpson, Malleys, Whirlpoo etc. fridges and stove-tops, ovens and so on.  Yes, their styles and colours may look a bit old fashioned but they're still running well.  Compare those to the junk imported now.  $17,000 and up for a half decent oven.  The rest -- all imported by that big US company and bearing well-known Aussie brand-names -- cost the same as they always did but they are junk, mass-produced in SE asian factories and prone to any number of problems including exploding glass doors, simple stop wont work or fire risks.  Aussie servicemen shake their heads as they look at the junk and listen to the payee's woes.  Then it's off to the shop to buy another - pay for the old one to be pulled out and the new bit of junk installed

 

What sort of wall-ovens to politicians' wives use, I wonder.  Are they putting up with the same carp as the rest of us or do we pay for them to have something half decent, imported from northern europe and with a price of twice a pensioner's annual income ?

 

Why was it allowed to happen?  Simpson closed down in Oz.  People lost their job.  And US companies reap obscene profits by having junk mass-produced in Asia where they also enjoy lower taxes, lower wages, big financial incentives.  And does that big US corporation pay taxes in Australia?  Doubt it.  None of it should ever have happened.  Why is Australia so keen to sign on to endless trade-agreements when we have bugger all to trade apart from rapidly eroding in value dirt out of the ground or livestock which are tortured before they're granted the mercy of death

 

But our politicians are beholden to overseas interests.  And they drag the rest of us along.  We used to have the highest quality of life in the world and supplied not only ourselves but overseas as well with fresh produce, etc.  

 

Do I think taxpayers should subsidise big Japanese manufacturers whilst leaving fifth generation Aussie farmers in the cold, forced to plough good fruit trees into the earth because our politicians and their trade-agreements have committed us to buying low quality fruit extracts etc. from other countries

 

Nope

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Do you think taxpayers should subsidise unprofitable businesses?

Australian Securities & Investments Commission reports record company closures, many blame carbon ta...

 

 

More Victorian companies go bust, according to Australian Securities and Investments Commission

 

THE number of companies collapsing in Victoria has hit a record level, with 2744 going bust over the past year as weak consumer confidence and slowing retail sales hit home.

 

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My answer is NO. Businesses close down all the time. The size is irrelevant, It's just the big ones thinking they can prop up their losses through bribery, so they hit the gov for money from an emotional aspect. So they feel like they have to say yes or incur the wrath of their people. If they're going to prop up one business, they have to prop up them all.
 
And anybody can see the effects of that - people won't need to try to make their business profitable, cos they can rely on the govs to prop em up.
 
Business comes down to Demand and Supply, if the demand is there at the price you are prepared to enter the market, then you supply. If the demand aint there, work out a way to create the demand or find another product or cease trading.
 
Quite simple really.

 


Some people can go their whole lives and never really live for a single minute.
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Do you think taxpayers should subsidise unprofitable businesses?

Well...take the car industry... I mean.... just for an example we are much better off driving a ...a Chevrolet (USA) or a BMW (Germany) or a Volvo (Sweden)

 

 rather than an AMI produced vehicleMan Tongue

 

 http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/why-car-subsidies-are-good-economics-201207...

Co-investment from the Australian government pales in comparison with the investment of other nations with automotive industries. In per capita terms,

 

Australia invests $US18 per annum. Compare this to the $US330 in Sweden, $US260 in the USA and $US95 in Germany.

On the back of these numbers, Australia's investment provides tremendous value for money in relative international terms.

That is of course unless we follow Ted's lead

http://youtu.be/LJq2Hc_mXFI

 

 

 

 

 

 

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oh how about we stand by and wave goodbye to all manufacturing in this country, then we can all whinge about bleeping foreigner's stealing our jobs.

I mean it makes no difference to us that the rest of the advanced capitalist countries assist their own industries in one way or another, we must prove a point after all.

Then after we have slashed or sold off to the lowest bidder all of our services, thrown all those on welfare who can't find a (non existent) job, say after 6months on to the streets, we could then go after our sick and our aged, waste of money, the lot of them.

Maybe we could round up all the poor and turn them into something profitable - what about - Organs For Sale, could be quite profitable, maybe we could approach gina with the idea.

What else is less important than the tax payers dollar........oh that's right - everything.  

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