End Of America "documentary discussion"

[softail-joanie]

Just as the title suggests, once a week, I will post a topic to discuss, and a video documentary to watch.

. End of America- Naomi Wolf presents you with the movie you must see to believe

. End of America Revisited- The complete talk by Naomi Wolf at the Free State Project's Liberty Forum 2014 

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[ruloinfovoter]

Don't count us out yet.

The Finger Pointer In Chief has a couple more years, but we'll recover, the world will recover from his hapless, feckless leadership.

Too many folks with one hand out and the other in their pocket voting for the Left to keep the dependency alive and well.

[softail-joanie]

I don't think this is so much about Obama or any president past or present. It's more a case of where we are headed. Jesse Ventura once said that our current president often gets the blame for what the one in office before them did. That it takes that long before policy declared takes effect. The movie I think brings up the question of if America is what it was supposed to be, or has America become un American. The war on terror, the war on drugs, is used to justify horrific actions, as shown in the movie.

"They did this in Germany" is a phrase you will hear at the beginning of the video. The similarites in things they are implimenting now, what they did then.

In my opinion, what was supposed to be "our government" has become "the government" Is government under our control, or are we under it's control? Do we answer to it or does it answer to us? Really, it's a question of what do we the people want. Because it's up to us, these things couldn't happen if we didn't let it.

Want to blame Obama, who voted for him? Who didn't want to throw their vote away on Gary Johnson? Because if we are to get someone in the white house who isn't just a puppet for the globalists, then all of us, all 7 billion people, need to throw our vote away on Ron Paul like canidates. The underdog, the one not allowed into the debates, excluded from news exposure. You go for the eliphant or donkey, the right of left, It's a scam, a diversion, Forget partys and focus on people.

[ruloinfovoter]

Of course we have to blame those who voted for Obama, especially if they did it twice.  

And he's been pointing the finger for six years now.  Reminds me of a teenager.

What we've lost is, well make that what about 47% have lost, include me out, is a fierce independence, not beholden to government.  Too many on the dole now and guess which way they vote.

The government is too big, too inept, corrupt, irresponsible and not accountable.  Must I give examples?  I blame both parties for this by the bye.

Obama has proven beyond a reasonable doubt, that he is incompetent, out of his league.

I mean what American president would have said "We have no strategy"??????  I mean really.

A community organizer, a guy who palled around with the likes of Bill Ayers, a man that said he wanted to transform, change America . . .

I have to hand it to him though, he sure does know how to read a teleprompter.

[polksaladallie]

This is Australia.

[ruloinfovoter]

This is a chatboard.

I find it an intereting, topical, relevant subject.

I appreciate it, but then I'm not much of a complainer.

[polksaladallie]

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@steppefjordwyfe10 wrote:

I appreciate it, but then I'm not much of a complainer.

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Oh?  See #2 and #4

[ruloinfovoter]

I'm sorry if you mistake political debate with disliking the freedom of choice in speech of others.

I learned quite young that there is a difference between complaining, whining, nagging, (men don't like that) and voicing an opinion on politics and current events.

The op has introduced a pertinent topic, "End of America . . .", Obama, America has influence around the world.  

Imagine if we'd have stayed out of WWII.

[***super_nova***]

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@steppefjordwyfe10 wrote:

I mean what American president would have said "We have no strategy"??????  I mean really.

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Honest one; you cannot have a strategy all nicely pre-packaged for something so unpredictable as ISIL.  But he has taken immediate action to stop ISIL from advancing and is trying to get coalition of the Arab states to fight them.  Or do you have few more trillions to spend on sending your troops back to Iraq?  The situation in Ukraine needs careful diplomatic handling, not threats and public posturing, that will not work with Putin.

Funny, nobody who is criticising Obama seems to comprehend that he inherited the GFC, and pretty much the whole world is still in recession.

[ruloinfovoter]

Except that he's known about it for over a year.

And new flash, every president has inherited the consequences of the past.  

This one though, is incapable of taking the bull by the horns, taking responsibility, leading.