on 10-04-2013 09:24 AM
We have been told time and time again that we are on a good wicket and that people are complaining for no reason... I know for a fact that people are on struggle street... I could not really understand how our interest rates are low because people are not spending, new housing numbers are incredibly low, businesses are sacking people and/or shutting up shop and the government is saying we have never had it better..
we hear that the unemployment rates are only about 5.4% and then people talk about even working 1 hour a week means they are classed as employed so the figures are skewed...... I could never really find proof of that statement..
well last night I managed to find this info... it sums it all up perfectly..
The ABS made changes in 2006 to include working 1 hour a week and did not include anyone that was unable to work... that is a very deceptive change...
on 10-04-2013 09:26 AM
February national unemployment hit 10.9% - most Australians ever out of work says Roy Morgan poll
IT IS NOT the kind of record that any Australian Government wants to set -- an estimated 2.47 million people out of work. February's unemployment figures are an all-time record, according to Roy Morgan Research.Glass half full or half empty? Like Australian employment statistics, it depends on your methodology.
Yet the results seem to be in stark contrast to official Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) polls favoured by the Australian Government and official agencies, currenly touting about 5.4 percent unemployment nationally.
The reason for the discrepancy is simple: different methodologies. Roy Morgan Research has been conducting the same unemployment polls nationally since 1948, and still uses the same methodology. As pointed out in a January report on the Business Acumen website, the ABS changed its methodology in 2006 and now uses a smaller sample polling method that regards someone as employed if they have had as little as one hour of work in any week of the survey period or have been unavaIlable for work for any reason.
The Roy Morgan poll also has separate figuRes for the 'under-employed' -- those who are seeking more work, such as part-timers and contractors. The ABS monthly poll does not survey underemployment.
"The latest Roy Morgan unemployment estimate of 10.9 percent is more than double the 5.4 percent currently quoted by the ABS for January 2013," said Roy Morgan executive chairman, Gary Morgan.
Roy Morgan's February employment estimates show Australian unemployment rate unchanged at 10.9 percent, totalling 1.36 million people unemployed, up 33,000 in a month.
Mr Morgan classified it as "a new record high figure".
"Australia's under-employment rose 45,000 to 1,113,000 meaning a record high 2.473 million (up 78,000) Australians (19.8%, up 0.1%) are either unemployed or under-employed," he said.
"Although total employment rose 105,000 to 11,151,000 over the last 12 months (full-time employment up 89,000 to 7,497,000 and part-time employment up 16,000 to 3,654,000), there was a far greater rise in total Australian unemployment and under-employment - now up a significant 329,000 over the past 12 months.
"These figures clearly show that the Australian economy remains in a weakened state with record high unemployment and under-employment. The economy clearly needs extra stimulation and in the run-up to the Federal Election our politicians will find it harder to provide the leadership in improving the Australian economy we all require.
"The uncertain political situation means the RBA was wrong to leave interest rates unchanged at 3 percent and must recommence cutting interest rates at the earliest opportunity.
"Australian interest rates are amongst the highest in the world and international news backs up the argument that the RBA must re-start lowering interest rates immediately."
Mr Morgan said at the time of this monthy's RBA interest rate decision, the Dow Jones Index in the US closed at a record high of 14,253.77.
"This is the first time the Dow Jones has closed at a record high since the beginning of the Global Financial Crisis," he said. "However, in Australia the All Ordinaries Index is currently around 5,100, which is around 1,700 points (25%) below its record high above 6,800 reached more than five years ago in November 2007.
"In addition, news today from the ABS National Accounts provides a worrying illustration of Australia's economic situation with the southern States of Australia - Victoria, South Australia and Tasmania now all in recession, as well as the ACT - all of which have now recorded two quarters of negative growth during the latter half of 2012."
HIGHLIGHTS OF THE RESEARCH FOR FEBRUARY:
* In February 2013 an estimated 1.36 million Australians (10.9% of the workforce) were unemployed. This is virtually unchanged from last month but is the equal highest rate of unemployment since January 2002. The Australian workforce* was 12,511,000, comprising 7,497,000 full-time workers (up 301,000); 3,654,000 part-time workers (up 38,000) and 1,360,000 looking for work (up 33,000) according to Roy Morgan.
* A further 1,113,000 Australians were under-employed - working part-time and looking for more work. This is 45,000 more than a month ago, and represents 8.9% of the workforce* (up 0.1%).
* In total 2.473 million Australians (19.8% of the workforce) were unemployed or under-employed in February. This is up 0.1% or 78,000 more than last month and also up a large 329,000 (2.3%) over the past 12 months since February 2012.
* In February an estimated 649,000 Australians (down 95,000) were looking for full-time work, a trend in February that has happened in seven out of the last 10 years, while a record high 711,000 (up a large 128,000) are now looking for part-time work. Considerably higher than the rise a year ago of 17,000.
* The Roy Morgan survey on Australia's unemployment and ‘under-employed'* is based on weekly interviews covering January 2007 - February 2013 and in total 319,145 Australians aged 14 and over were interviewed face-to-face including 3,964 interviews in February 2013.
on 10-04-2013 09:40 AM
the figure is a 'guesstimate' and incorrect as it is only a sample. samples of that kind can be out to the tune of 3 to 6 per cent. in short, its rubbish.
on 10-04-2013 09:49 AM
on 10-04-2013 09:52 AM
well last night I managed to find this info... it sums it all up perfectly..
Sounds like you were looking for something negative to suit an agenda of spreading doom and gloom.
Isnt that what the majority of op's posts are about?
on 10-04-2013 10:00 AM
the OP also fails to take into account the fact that official unemployment figures are calculated in precisely the same way by the same body as the figures from the howard era.
meaning that the current govt is in fact doing a better job in that regard. they changed nothing about the method of calculating the figure whereas the howard govt did by including Dis pensioners, and making the dis pension easier to get for this purpose. Centrelink have made the dis pension harder to get now, which tips the balance even further in the gillard govts favour.
on 10-04-2013 10:03 AM
So, this is not true then?
THE Gillard goverment's tough-love budget decision to force thousands of single mothers on to the dole is achieving one of its key objectives, with almost 4000 parents who were relying exclusively on welfare now drawing their own income.
While Labor's decision to shift single parents off the higher Parenting Payment was mainly motivated by the desire to save $700 million for the budget, the government has maintained the move, which is opposed by the majority of caucus, was about increasing work participation and ending welfare dependence.
on 10-04-2013 10:05 AM
Isnt that what the majority of op's posts are about?
No, actually. However, we all post what interests us and when one works outside the home, posting everything one does have interest in, is not a priority.
on 10-04-2013 10:06 AM
We have been told time and time again that we are on a good wicket and that people are complaining for no reason...
We know from your own words that this Government has supported you and your children,helped in re training you and you are now employed and considering further study.Isn't that great 🙂
on 10-04-2013 10:49 AM
i wonder how much campbell newman's government has contributed to this considering he has ripped apart the qld welfare system and public service and left so many jobless.