GONSKI... WILL IT REALLY LEARN YA?

[nero_bolt]

The labor government in its final days and drowning in debt made ridiculously unattainable (and unfunded) social promises. It dared the then Opposition to match those unaffordable dream schemes.

 Unfortunately it did match them... Abbott felt the risk of Australia facing another term of Labor was far too great.

 The most outrageous of Gillard’s schemes was her NDIS, a cruel hoax, and next in line to be back-burned by Abbott.

 The NBN is already being wound back, as far as it can be, but water-filled holes worth $90 billion are hard to fill in without making a mess.

 Labor did everything possible to Abbott-proof its sinister agenda.

 Gillard brewed her alchemic witchcrafted potions according to the McTernan black-magic handbook: If Labor won, it would brazenly borrow up to one trillion. If Abbott won, Labor would not allow its unrepresentative Senate to fund Gillard’s own sorcery.

 Gillard’s Gonski scheme is nothing more than an unfunded attempt to centralise control of the education curricula in Canberra... a frightfully extreme proposition that would have, via their proposed plebiscite to empower councils, eventually denuded the States of their sovereignty and imposed Labor’s pièce de résistance: The eventual abolition of all private school funding.

 Labor has always coveted total control of education and the shaping of little kids’ minds... it’s how they see their socialist Shangri La of the future.

 Whitlam tried it with his “Schools’ Commission” in the 70s, replacing the essential three Rs with eco studies, phonetic spelling and green fairytales.

 Those children of Whitlam are now our illiterate teachers and Gonski’s billions cannot assist illiterate teachers to educate children in literacy.

 Chucking billions at the current education problem will have much the same effect as chucking billions at the Aboriginal problem.

 Contrary to Labor’s belief, money is neither the problem nor the answer! The answer is in what we teach our children... and that doesn’t cost one extra cent.

 It is appalling that Australian children were predictably beaten by students from 26 countries in year four reading in the 2011 International Reading and Literacy Study.

 Asian neighbour countries blitzed us in science and maths, with Singaporean and South Korean kids ahead of us in every single category except Marxist philosophy and global warming.

 The only thing upwardly trending in the Australian education system is teachers' salaries which are way above the OECD average and have risen 13 per cent since 2000 at all levels.

 Imagine the Gonski treasure trove that was set to be looted by teachers’ unions.

 If past Labor policies are responsible for the current education malaise (and they are) why in hell should it be given another go at it via an outrageous Gonski scam?

 O’Farrell and Napthine may well cry, “foul!”

Wasn’t it Keating who said: “Never stand between a Premier and a bucket of money”?

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@paintsew007 wrote:

400 million would employ 6,154 teachers on $65,000 each for a year.

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how many future workers (tax payers ) does one teacher teach though ?

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NW, you have fought your fight for Gina,Murdock,Pickering and co 

IMO you have been a party to the crime of deceiving Australians 

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"Under the Better Schools reform, the ACT was set to receive an additional $190 million over the next six years to be directed toward the children with the highest needs."

This stood out to me, as yesterday, I believe that Donna had a thread with a Gonski petition in it where she claimed that her school was to receive $4 million dollars. Now, I do not know Donna, however, I am under the impression that her children would have had access to a school and a community that wouldn't fit the "children with the highest needs" stereotype iykwim.

In short, I am reasonably positive that a school chosen by someone such as Donna would have floors and walls on the classrooms, resources to enable access to the curriculum, electricity, teachers who spoke English (for classes meant to be delivered in English), internet access, a sports oval, a library, some computers, a science lab, those kinds of things.

That kind of thing, so if money is to be directed to schools such as this, and the purpose of Gonski was to direct funds towards "children with the highest needs", I'm just struggling with the concept that the money was to be administerd effectively and efficiently.

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check dates ?

now more than any time in Australia's political history ...it is important to look at what the go is from one day to the next.

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The NDIS is next to be axed is it ?

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I do think that for the States where a bilateral agreement was reached that they need to be honoured. That is a bad thing to go back on that, UNLESS, the plans are to still allocate the money, but simply to distribute them in a different manner in order to ensure maximum effectiveness and "bang for buck".

The OP made a good point that the teachers of today are (generally speaking) the ones with poor education standards, so no amount of money will help the students if those charged with the delivery of the curriculum are inept.

I know there are brilliant teachers, I do not mean to imply that all teachers are inept, but the younger generation of teachers which are emerging do seem to have a fair few members who barely made it through school themselves. Just have a look at what Uni Entry scores are required to enter Bachelor of Education. They are amongst the lowest. yet we give them the responsibility of guiding and developing our most precious resources - our children and our future.

Brigette Big Brother 08 - This young lass finished her Bachelor iof Education this year and will be coming to a school near you soon....

Perhaps before we can address the poor standards of our current students, we really need to be addressing the standards of those charged with the delivery of their curriculum.

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people voted on these issues.We were told policies given to us were fully funded and fully costed... (A LIE)

many lies and back flips and blame appointed elsewhere to follow

Tony Abbott,Julie Bishop,Joe Hockey,Scott Morrison,Christopher Pyne ,promoters and followers

programmed to deceive 

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@paintsew007 wrote:

Govt is spending 400 million of tax payers money on hosting some world meeting in Qld in Nov 2014. *wow.....I mean why can't they just hold a teleconference if they're serious about saving money? Lead by example. I mean how many educators and jobs could be funded with 400 million?

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Without knowing what the event is, I agree with that, or at least something more low key.

Unless the money is to be spent similarly to preparation for hosting things such as Olympic Games etc, where the money spent, builds infrastructure for long term benefit, increases oor world exposure in a positive manner etc, although in saying that, if we don't have the money, then I think that this kind of expenditure should be at least delayed until such time that cost cutting is not as essential as it is at the moment.

Paints, what is the event and why is it considered essential?

[lakeland27]

lifted directly from The pickering post' poor larry can beg people to swallow this, but mostly they aren't. abbott is answering qusetions with slogans because he knows he's a liar who pulled a swifty. the public wont forget. this broken promise is a handfull of nails for abbotts political coffin. one term tone is a dud as expected.

[polksaladallie]

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@paintsew007 wrote:

400 million would employ 6,154 teachers on $65,000 each for a year.

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Experienced teachers earn a lot more than that.