on 11-03-2014 11:53 AM
Greens’ industrial devolution: saving the planet by destroying livelihoods
There’s one group of people who should be cheering the closure of Ford, Toyota, and Alcoa’s Port Henry aluminium smelter. Heavy industries like these use a lot of electricity. That electricity comes from burning coal, mostly brown coal, which throws off enormous amounts of carbon dioxide — the stuff the previous government used to call “carbon pollution”. The wonderful thing about closing car plants and smelters is all the pollution it will prevent. This is a great step forward in the battle to save the planet.
But they’re humble folks those Greens. They don’t boast about their successes. Businesses that needed cheap power to stay profitable are becoming uncompetitive and closing. The carbon tax is working the way it was intended — taxing heavy emitters out of business. The carbon tax is highly effective. And the Greens must be proud of the results.
If you want to see what a place looks like after years of these policies it would be worth a visit to Tasmania. Tasmania produces the cleanest energy in the country from its hydro-electric schemes. Since hydro works off water which has to be collected in dams (another Green no-no) there isn’t that much of it and it’s pretty expensive. This means Tasmania has de-industrialised. You won’t find car workers in Tasmania. But it is a clean green state. Per head of population Tasmania generates much less “carbon pollution” than New South Wales or Victoria.
Tasmania also has the highest unemployment of any Australian state.
The trouble with all those eco-jobs is that there are not many of them.
Green jobs are mostly jobs paid out of other people’s taxes.
Unemployment would be much higher still if Tasmania hadn’t perfected the art of extracting financial subsidies from the rest of us.
Tasmania sends 12 senators to the Commonwealth parliament — the same as every other state. But since the population of Tasmania is so much smaller, a Tasmanian senator needs about one fifteenth of the votes a New South Wales senator needs to get elected.
A very small group of Tasmanian voters has been sending Greens like Bob Brown and Christine Milne to Canberra for decades with the aim of doing to the whole country what they have done to their own state — to deindustrialise it.
However there is one big difference. No matter how much damage Tasmania does to itself it will always be able to call on federal subsidies to cushion the blow. It has political clout beyond its numbers embedded in the Australian Constitution. It gets back a much larger share of the GST pie than it pays in. It gets make-work schemes and call-centres and subsidised roads out of national taxes.
If the Greens succeed in giving the Tasmanian treatment to the rest of the country there is no great international benefactor that is going to step in to give Australia money to save it from itself. Tasmania may be cocooned inside a federation but the nation is not cocooned by anything or anyone. It is on its own.
A state election is being held in Tasmania this weekend. The Greens-Labor government of the last four years is on its last legs. Tasmanians look like they will elect a government that wants to get the state out of its hole.
But at the national level the Greens and Labor are still working hand in hand to defend the carbon tax that is ripping apart employment in the manufacturing industry. One day the unemployed workers of the manufacturing plants might turn around and realise how badly they were betrayed by the people who claimed to be “Labor”.
Then there is the mining tax. When it was first introduced it was promised to raise over $6 billion this year. The usual crowd of those who want the government to spend more lined up to cheer it on — Labor MPs, academics, progressive archbishops and so on. All of the expected proceeds were allocated to various spending projects. The trouble is that it never worked. It never had the slightest chance of working. This year it will be lucky to raise one tenth of what Julia Gillard promised it would when she announced it in July 2010.
All that effort, all that compliance, and nothing to show for it. I introduced a new tax once. All that effort, all that compliance but at least it raises $50 billion each year. The mining tax has got to be the biggest tax failure of the last 50 years.
As I predicted at the time, there was the dog with no bark, the pub with no beer, and now the tax with
no revenue.
One tax should go because it is hopelessly ineffective. The other should go because it is highly effective, just effective towards the wrong results. Our tax system needs radical improvement — lower company tax rates, lower marginal income tax rates. If we get rid of the bad stuff perhaps we can then get on with some of the important business.
on 11-03-2014 12:06 PM
The wonderful thing about closing car plants and smelters is all the pollution it will prevent. This is a great step forward in the battle to save the planet.
Closing the plants will actually cause more pollution when the production moves to Asian countries where they don't care about pollution.
Just like when old tires and plastic covered copper wire is shipped overseas with everyone knowing its going to a third world country to be processed is the most unenvironmentally ways possible, but the people feel they have clean hands because its not us actually doing the burning.
Out of sight out of mind and ignorance is bliss, trippers
on 11-03-2014 12:11 PM
@the_hawk* wrote:The wonderful thing about closing car plants and smelters is all the pollution it will prevent. This is a great step forward in the battle to save the planet.
Closing the plants will actually cause more pollution when the production moves to Asian countries where they don't care about pollution.
Just like when old tires and plastic covered copper wire is shipped overseas with everyone knowing its going to a third world country to be processed is the most unenvironmentally ways possible, but the people feel they have clean hands because its not us actually doing the burning.
Out of sight out of mind and ignorance is bliss, trippers
I agree but tell that to the greens/labor, as they simply dont care, kill all jobs in Australia like they have done in Tasmania and send it all over seas.
as you said... Out of sight out of mind and ignorance is bliss, to these people....
and this is what they want to do to Australia.... Based on their brilliant success in Tasmania
on 11-03-2014 01:34 PM
What a load of hogwash. Peter Costello should get a grip of reality instea of bashing the greens becasue there's an election campaign. Tasmania doesn't have the advantage of having public sector infrastructure to the same extent as the other states. There are few govt offices there and no govt departments based there, with the exception of the Antarctic centre. There are no defence facilities or contracts which help boost the other states finances.
The factories that have closed in Tasmania have close due to old age and lack of capital investment in building new ones.
Gunns closed because they got greedy and stupid. If the timbers are the best, as we're constantly reminded why the heck do they wood chip the lot instead of selective harvesting them and selling the fine timbers?
Young people have been leaving the state since the white settlement began. There is nothing wrong with leaving to see the country and the world. The last thing they need is an entire population whose only experience is Tasmania.
The people need to change more than the govt. It doesn't matter how much they pump into education if the people refuse to accept that they need better educations and new industries need to be welcomed they will just continue to being whingers living in pixie land.
It is not the greens fault that people refuse to change with the times.
Why do you think it's OK to prop up a forest industry with govt money?
on 11-03-2014 02:44 PM
@freakiness wrote:
Its going to be terrible for you come Saturday night when Labor and the greens are turfed out of office..... Tasmania under a real govt the LNP who are for jobs and the economy, not the hand out green mentality thats Tasmania as we know it now.
11-03-2014 02:48 PM - edited 11-03-2014 02:49 PM
@nero_wulf wrote:
@freakiness wrote:
Its going to be terrible for you come Saturday night when Labor and the greens are turfed out of office..... Tasmania under a real govt the LNP who are for jobs and the economy, not the hand out green mentality thats Tasmania as we know it now.
You clearly have little to no knowledge of Tasmania and its politics, or about me for that matter.
on 11-03-2014 03:13 PM
A very interesting article and a wake up to all those poor benighted dim witted Green voters
....WAKE UP, the rest of Australia DO not owe you a living, are fed up with the mendicant mentality, and are not beholden to keep you in the welfare manner to which you have become accustomed.
Roll on Saturday, get rib of useless massive losers Labor and the toxic Greens. Go away, sit in the forest and pray to Gaia, hold hands and finish with a soft rendition of Kumbayah.
on 11-03-2014 03:26 PM
@freakiness wrote:
@nero_wulf wrote:
@freakiness wrote:
Its going to be terrible for you come Saturday night when Labor and the greens are turfed out of office..... Tasmania under a real govt the LNP who are for jobs and the economy, not the hand out green mentality thats Tasmania as we know it now.
You clearly have little to no knowledge of Tasmania and its politics,
I have excellent knowledge of both Tasmania and its politics and welfare mentality
or about me for that matter.
and I have excellent knowledge on this as well... 🙂
on 11-03-2014 03:28 PM
@nero_wulf wrote:
You clearly have little to no knowledge of Tasmania and its politics,
I have excellent knowledge of both Tasmania and its politics and welfare mentality
or about me for that matter.
and I have excellent knowledge on this as well... 🙂
Obviously not.
on 11-03-2014 03:41 PM
Maybe poddy can enlighten us?? Personallly I don't give a fig.lol lol.