on 18-01-2014 12:04 PM
I always fail at trying to talk about Indigenous stuff cos it always turns nasty - still not sure why that is...............
Anyway my little family making plans to celebrate Survival Day - yeah yeah SURVIVAL DAY - we celebrate we survied & are here but more importantly culture has survived, besides best efforts to kill it and us off
Now before the usual lot carry on and all the same old "get over it" blah blah blah - I wonder if you would consider something? Just think about this for a minute then on u go with ur day 🙂
Just imagine that when the japanese were bombing Aust, just imagine if they took over Aust, say Feb 9th 1942. Just imagine that for a minute. Japanese ppl all moved into your houses, you could ONLY speak japanese etc ect, not even gonna talk about killing babies, taking women, stealing children - just imagine they took over. And you are NOT happy about it 😞
Would you celebrate Feb 9th? They tell you its the day the country was made great, the best day, the day you will celebrate EVERY year? Would you do it??
Hmmmm?
We do celebrate it, I choose not to call it Invasion Day, I choose to call it Survival Day and we will celebrate it.
We are back out bush until the 27th so HAPPY Jan 26th - whatever you wanna call it, stay safe everyone and I can come back in here tonight and when in town - haters gonna hate but it would be cool to have a conversation without the **bleep**??
on 18-01-2014 04:38 PM
@**meep** wrote:Hasn't every country at some point been conquered/colonised? How far back is far enough to stop the blame?
Anyway, since the date chosen to celebrate national day in Australia seems inappropriate or even offensive to many Australians, why can't it be changed? The more I think about it, the more I believe it should be changed. It seems to be causing hostility and division.
Like Mr Grizz, I don't think I have actually wished anyone a "Happy Australia Day" and also think that would be weird...
Happy Invasion Day? Happy Survival Day? Doesn't seem right either but thanks Lobs, wishing you a great day also.
I agree, I've always thought of Australia Day as a day to celebrate being here, no matter how or when that happened. Not sure about changing it, what date would be suitable to all? The 26th of January is the day this country changed forever, the good, the bad, the really ugly, but here we all are.
on 18-01-2014 04:39 PM
@izabsmiling wrote:Is allowing an Indigenous Australian to express their view on their Country's History an inconvenience for you Meep ?
Inconvenience? On the contrary. I am very interested.
Which part of what I posted gave you the impression that I found it inconvenient? If you could point that out so I could clarify it.
Thank you kindly.
on 18-01-2014 04:40 PM
@izabsmiling wrote:Repeat Freaki's question
Where did anyone say you're to blame or tell anyone to feel guilt?
or blame ?
Are you still referring to me?
If so, where did I say I was to blame?
18-01-2014 04:42 PM - edited 18-01-2014 04:45 PM
remove this one double post ????
on 18-01-2014 04:43 PM
@nevynreally wrote:
@**meep** wrote:Hasn't every country at some point been conquered/colonised? How far back is far enough to stop the blame?
Anyway, since the date chosen to celebrate national day in Australia seems inappropriate or even offensive to many Australians, why can't it be changed? The more I think about it, the more I believe it should be changed. It seems to be causing hostility and division.
Like Mr Grizz, I don't think I have actually wished anyone a "Happy Australia Day" and also think that would be weird...
Happy Invasion Day? Happy Survival Day? Doesn't seem right either but thanks Lobs, wishing you a great day also.
I agree, I've always thought of Australia Day as a day to celebrate being here, no matter how or when that happened. Not sure about changing it, what date would be suitable to all? The 26th of January is the day this country changed forever, the good, the bad, the really ugly, but here we all are.
I'm not sure. There were suggestions on another similar thread......I can't recall......
Celebrating Invasion Day does not seem right and that's what it means to a lot of Australians, it seems.
on 18-01-2014 04:44 PM
I don't understand why people come out with comments like
how long are we supposed to go back and that when Indigenous People of this Country speak others think that in the process of allowing them to speak about their Country and their History that they are blaming people or expect you to feel blame or shame ?
Why do people do that ? is it kind of uncomfortable to hear the history which the Indigenous people lived ?
If it is for some....... too bad.
It's their people's and our Country's History
and all of us have a right to that
on 18-01-2014 04:46 PM
Yes, I'd like clarification for your uncalled for comment as well.
on 18-01-2014 04:48 PM
look up
It was already there ..
on 18-01-2014 04:49 PM
OFGS noboby knows what the blue blazes you're on about. Please enlighten us, we'd be ever so grateful.
on 18-01-2014 04:53 PM
@**meep** wrote:I agree, I've always thought of Australia Day as a day to celebrate being here, no matter how or when that happened. Not sure about changing it, what date would be suitable to all? The 26th of January is the day this country changed forever, the good, the bad, the really ugly, but here we all are.
I'm not sure. There were suggestions on another similar thread......I can't recall......
Celebrating Invasion Day does not seem right and that's what it means to a lot of Australians, it seems.
No, it doesn't seem right. Kind of glass have empty. Which is kind of sad. Could there ever be a right day?