on 11-11-2013 08:52 PM
I am a member on a predominately American message board and as I was checking it out I came across a posting which was titled "Happy Veterans Day", now I know that November 11 has a different meaning in the US, but I actually felt offended (not sure if thats the right word). The person who made the post is young, so I really doubt they have any idea of what Nov 11 means in other countries.
I know this seems like a strange post, but I'm bored and the dog won't sit and listen to me,
on 11-11-2013 09:54 PM
Not strange, I know what you mean, I often want to say to some American friends, "what's happy: about whatever they are saying it about. Work that one out. lol.
on 11-11-2013 10:09 PM
Good point, but then again we say "Happy Easter", when there's nothing happy about crucifiction.
on 11-11-2013 11:02 PM
It is a tribute to those that served and also marks the end of WW1. So is seen as a happy occasion.
Memorial is a holiday to salute those who gave their lives.
I don't think I've ever heard Happy memorial day. Although they gave their lives for the freedoms of others I'd think they'd want us to happy for that.
And good point about Easter, applies to Merry Christmas also. I'd say the line above applies to them too.
on 12-11-2013 12:22 AM
Happy Easter is OK because it celebrates the resurrection (Crist's triumph over death.) - Happy Good Friday might be a bit off though.
on 12-11-2013 10:00 AM
@*jimmeh* wrote:It is a tribute to those that served and also marks the end of WW1. So is seen as a happy occasion.
Memorial is a holiday to salute those who gave their lives.
I don't think I've ever heard Happy memorial day. Although they gave their lives for the freedoms of others I'd think they'd want us to happy for that.
And good point about Easter, applies to Merry Christmas also. I'd say the line above applies to them too.
Jimmeh here Nov 11 was originally to remember those who died in WW1, now it is to remember those who have died in all wars/conflicts.
ANZAC day is our day to thank those who served.
Jimmeh, how would you feel if some moron said to you "Happy Sept 11" ?
on 12-11-2013 01:28 PM
If you are posting on a predominantly American forum you should accept their take on holidays. If the 11/11 is a happy occasion for them then just accept it.
It is not as though they were "celebating" the same occasion as us in Australia so why be offended by it?
on 12-11-2013 03:08 PM
@lyndal1838 wrote:If you are posting on a predominantly American forum you should accept their take on holidays. If the 11/11 is a happy occasion for them then just accept it.
It is not as though they were "celebating" the same occasion as us in Australia so why be offended by it?
I was actually suprised at how I felt when I first spotted the post. I really didn't think it would bother me the way it has. I believe its the wording of the title that has bothered me. How can remembering war and those who served in wars be a happy thing?
Maybe I am just over analysing this, as I said in my OP I was bored last night and when I'm bored I start thinking
on 12-11-2013 10:13 PM
@happyroo_bunji wrote:
@*jimmeh* wrote:It is a tribute to those that served and also marks the end of WW1. So is seen as a happy occasion.
Memorial is a holiday to salute those who gave their lives.
I don't think I've ever heard Happy memorial day. Although they gave their lives for the freedoms of others I'd think they'd want us to happy for that.
And good point about Easter, applies to Merry Christmas also. I'd say the line above applies to them too.
Jimmeh here Nov 11 was originally to remember those who died in WW1, now it is to remember those who have died in all wars/conflicts.
ANZAC day is our day to thank those who served.
Jimmeh, how would you feel if some moron said to you "Happy Sept 11" ?
You said it was a mostly American site and here it means something different. It's for the survivors (a good thing, yes) the end of a war (another good thing). As much as we are alike in many things there are differences. Just because we speak the language (sort of, lol) I think a lot of you apply your morals and ways of thinking to us.
That can only create hostility. I've read here many times people saying about other countries, "it's a different culture and we should understand and respect that (death penalties for drugs, chopping the hands of thieves, ect.). Countries are like people and grow up differently.
How can remembering war and those who served in wars be a happy thing?
The happy part is that it ended.
Maybe I am just over analysing this,
Maybe not. I've never said it because it does seem a bit weird. There was a Happy Vets day thread on the US ebay and one person mentioned what you said (I think it was a Canadian....hard to tell, it was a sock). Everyone ignored it, so it's obviously acceptable.
Knowing how some if not all of you feel about it, I would never say it to any of you. Some cultures even celibrate funnerals, even here (New Orleans, Italians, etc) I've been to the Italian ones. Before my time they would lay the body out in the living room (living room lol) and then have a party on the roof....lots of food and drinking.
Jimmeh, how would you feel if some moron said to you "Happy Sept 11" ?
Big difference between people who died fighting and innocent men women and children being murdered. BUT....if someone said it not being a wise *** I'd explain why it's so offensive. If they meant it to antagonize me...are they a man and within arms length?
THAT is my longest post ever....any typos?
12-11-2013 10:39 PM - edited 12-11-2013 10:41 PM
Funerals, in general, are more a celebration of the deceased persons life now, than the wearing of predominately black clothes, mournful occasions they used to be. Speeches by family members about the deceased.