He who won't vote interviews he who wants to be UK PM

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Ed Miliband does politics week at The Trews with Russell Brand.

 

 

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@electric*mayhem*band wrote:

@ BBbaybizz wrote:

 

Totally agree. UKIP got around 13% of the votes, and ended up with only one seat in Parliament - while the Scottish National Party (SNP) got around 5% of the votes, and ended up with 56 seats!...  Something wrong somewhere.

  


Yes BB, that's what happens with our totally insane voting system of first past the post. Were it Proportional Representation (PR), things would be different. By the way, Nigel Farage has just stated that when the party leadership election comes up in September, he may put his name forward. Fingers crossed on that one. If that fat Scottish windbag Alex Salmond can claim more comebacks than Frank Sinatra, then surely Nigel is allowed one 

 

Anyway, enough about our governmental woes. I suspect the Australians have got their own troubles to contend with, without foisting ours upon them.

 

One more thing just before I leave:

 

'More like a 'washed up" comedian'.

 

Icy, please desist from referring to Brand as a 'comedian'. You could level many adjectives in his direction, but being funny isn't one of them. In fact the only thing funny about him, is his appearance. On the comedic front, about as funny as a burning orphanage.


Yeah he doesn't look like he washes up too much either.

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>> #39: Yes BB, that's what happens with our totally insane voting system of first past the post. Were it Proportional Representation (PR), things would be different.

Hi electric: Actually I am rather torn on this. On the one hand I feel that first past the post has nearly always produced a stable majority government (last time was probably an aberration), but on the other hand it seems unfair that smaller parties find it so difficult to break through. But one must remember that the British Labour party started out as a fringe party, but eventually broke through to government. It can be done if the support is there (particularly if concentrated around certain seats).  On balance I lean towards first past the post, unless the politicians are prepared to come up with a sensible Proportional Representation (PR) system that sets the bar high enough to keep out lots of small parties.

There is a phrase from Gilbert & Sullivan which sums it up well: "When everybody is somebody, nobody is anybody" .

Another disadvantage of PR is that in order to be able to parcel out the parliamentary seats to the number to accurately reflect the percentage of the vote a party gains, one needs to introduce a party list system, which means that the link between an MP and the constituency is broken - no more the concept of "I'm going to write to my MP". The party leaders go on the top of the PR list (and are almost assured of election), while the rest of the list is filled with appointed party hacks in order of their popularity with the party leadership. You can see the kind of situation which can result in Greece and just recently in Israel. 

 

Israel PR:

>> Mr. Netanyahu and his Likud Party celebrated a surprisingly strong victory in the March 17 elections after a divisive campaign, but ended up scrambling to scrape together 61 of Parliament’s 120 members into a coalition - and hold on to his premiership. He... emerged weakened to lead a government that Israeli experts said was unlikely to last long or do much. “What you see here is a big political mess..."  Analysts said the last-minute deal-making and the narrow government it produced pointed to problems in Israel’s fractured political system. Ten parties split the seats in Parliament... “It’s more like a soap opera than serious politics...”

 

www.nytimes.com/2015/05/07/middleeast/netanyahu-israel-coalition

 

 

Greece PR:

>> Greece demonstrates risks of proportional representation...

www.nationalpost.com/greece-demonstrates-risks-of-proportional-representation

 

 

 

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