How do you think that the boats should be stopped?

[*crikey*mate*]

politics aside and disregard any policies and/or treaties Australia has previously signed. Pretend there is a clean slate, a start over.

What do you think should be done with those who seek assylum and choose a boat as their method of transport?

If "we" become aware that their boats are in danger, do we help them?

Do we let anybody who wants to come, come?

What do we do with the assylum seekers once they do arrive/intercepted/are saved?

Do we just say "no"?

Do you even consider the "boat people" and people smugglers to be a problem for Australia?

is it something that even needs fixing? 

[cherry*135]

Of course you can pretend the treaties, policies and relevant laws can be diregarded - think of it like a kind of Utopia - fresh start, we get to make the rules up all over again.

I don't think so, that is like living in fantasyland. We have to deal with what we have and  that is not likely to be changed.

If we start our reponses based on an ideal world, there wouldn't be any need for people to flee their own countries..they would be living in ideal conditions.

[cherry*135]

newstart:

is it something that even needs fixing? 

Yes, communication between Australia and Indonedia, Indonesia has a choice if they want aid they will have to cooperate in stopping the boats.

Is that something you would do if you were PM or something you think should happen in the future. It is not been mentioned currently.

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@*mrgrizz* wrote:

it is really quite easy to stop.

put them all straight onto a plane and fly them to a UN refugee camp.

then bring back the same number, of our choosing

the word will soon get out

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That sounds like a workable solution. It's not too dissimilar to the 'Malaysian Solution' proposed by the previous government. That was knocked back supposedly because Malaysia is not a signatory to the UN Convention on refugees. However I understand Indonesia isn't either - which may cause problems for any similar  'swap' proposed by Tony Abbott. 

Given the state of the world at the moment I really do think the whole refugee problem worldwide needs to be co-ordinated by the UN.

[lurker17260]

What makes some people think that Australia and Australians have some sort of supreme right to live in splendid isolation on this vast underpopulated island, that other human beings don't around the world don't? What accident of birth makes us so special?

[**meep**]

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@lurker17260 wrote:
What makes some people think that Australia and Australians have some sort of supreme right to live in splendid isolation on this vast underpopulated island, that other human beings don't around the world don't? What accident of birth makes us so special?

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Australia is one of the most generous resettlement nation per capita.   Not sure about the current situation but we were ranked 2nd or 3rd in the world.  (after the US and Canada).

Under the 1951 Refugee Convention, States are not legally obligated to accept refugees for resettlement.   Unfortunately, only a small number of countries take part in the UNHCR resettlement program.

 I don't know what the ideal number of the humanitarian intake in Australia should be because I don't fully understand how it is determined. 

I know it involves at least the UNHCR assessment of the resettlement needs of refugees overseas and Australia's capacity to assist.

The 2013-2014 Migration Program is set at 190 000 places.

The Humanitarian Program is set at 20 000 places.

How would you like to see that changed?

[***super_nova***]

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

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@*mrgrizz* wrote:

it is really quite easy to stop.

put them all straight onto a plane and fly them to a UN refugee camp.

then bring back the same number, of our choosing

the word will soon get out

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That sounds like a workable solution. It's not too dissimilar to the 'Malaysian Solution' proposed by the previous government. That was knocked back supposedly because Malaysia is not a signatory to the UN Convention on refugees. However I understand Indonesia isn't either - which may cause problems for any similar  'swap' proposed by Tony Abbott. 

Given the state of the world at the moment I really do think the whole refugee problem worldwide needs to be co-ordinated by the UN.

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Yes, and it would have worked if the LNP did not vote against it.  That just show that TA did not really care about the people drowning, all what he cared about was getting the top job.  All the death at sea after that can be directly attributed to the LNP rejection of that legislation. 

[donnashuggy]

A sink the boat policy would work.

[*mrgrizz*]

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@donnashuggy wrote:

A sink the boat policy would work.

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i have always said that

we have some excellent submarines

[ca04]

WE ARE, WE ARE, AUSTRALIANS !!

[ca04]

Most of these people are flying to the islands with papers on a visa then dump their papers & get on a boat.

We like a lot of other countries should fly them back to the last place they had papers at & then it is the

responsibility of that country.When they have a few thousand people living at their airport then they may not

be so keen to alow this pratice to continue.