on โ20-01-2015 02:07 PM
on โ20-01-2015 04:12 PM
on โ20-01-2015 04:13 PM
Has this thread got any purpose?
on โ20-01-2015 04:16 PM
@azureline** wrote:
@siggie-reported-by-alarmists wrote:
@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:
@siggie-reported-by-alarmists wrote:No one gets rich on welfare.
No one? I beg to differ, but then we've been through this before.
You can beg............ if you are on government payments you would need to.
The amount someone gets on the dole would not be enough to just feed our family.... how do they survive?
I don't know any, so can't say I don't like them................
I guess the criminal ones can get rich but they usually get caught, don't they? the ones who use several names to collect or work and collect?
If you claimed the dole under 3 different names....... you would total $41 000 a year......4 names $51 000 a year.
Hardly enough to buy a private island......lol...... no one gets rich off welfare.......... That's a lot a fake id's just to equal minimum wage.
โ20-01-2015 04:18 PM - edited โ20-01-2015 04:19 PM
on โ20-01-2015 04:18 PM
Nero is just trying to tell us he does not like any one ๐
on โ20-01-2015 04:26 PM
@siggie-reported-by-alarmists wrote:
@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:
@siggie-reported-by-alarmists wrote:No one gets rich on welfare.
No one? I beg to differ, but then we've been through this before.
You can beg............ if you are on government payments you would need to.
The amount someone gets on the dole would not be enough to just feed our family.... how do they survive?
Welfare was never meant to be a living. It was meant to be an assistance.
on โ20-01-2015 04:27 PM
again with the promotion of violence on the bottom of the pic there really is no place in Australia for that sort of tea party nonsense.
Here is 2 of the biggest welfare bludgers in Australia today
โ20-01-2015 05:09 PM - edited โ20-01-2015 05:10 PM
A leading campaigner against welfare cuts who claimed to be too sick to work has taken a ยฃ75,000-a-year job with the firm used by the Government to reform disability benefits.
Sue Marsh, a darling of the Left who has railed against Iain Duncan Smithโs reforms for the last five years, has been recruited by Maximus, the US firm that has taken over a controversial โfitness for workโ test for benefit claimants.
Her volte face has infuriated supporters, who have branded her a โJudasโ and a โsell-outโ.
Mrs Marsh said she had undergone an โenormous โ almost cosmic โ mindset shiftโ that had led her to accept a job as the companyโs โhead of customer experienceโ.
She had previously claimed that in Maximus, the Department for Work and Pensions had sought out the โworst provider they could findโ to assess claimants of disability benefits.
Mr Duncan Smith, the Work and Pensions Secretary, welcomed Mrs Marshโs decision. He said: โI would be the first person to congratulate anyone who gets a job. Iโm sure there will be some whose negative attitudes to our reforms mean they will criticise her move. They should be ignored.โ
Mrs Marsh ran a blog called the โDiary of a Benefits Scroungerโ, detailing her difficulties in trying to be declared unfit for work due to Crohnโs disease.
Mrs Marsh, who was championed on Twitter by supporters including Lord Prescott, Alastair Campbell, Stephen Fry and Billy Bragg, also appeared at the Labour conference in 2013 and wrote regularly for the Guardian.
Late last year, Maximus was awarded a three-and-a-half year contract to take over delivery of the โwork capability assessmentโ โ the test of claimantsโ ability to work โ from the much-criticised Atos Healthcare.
Announcing her new job, she admitted she had โagonisedโ about how to tell her supporters of her decision and said she was motivated only by a desire to improve the system.
โThose who doubt my intentions and with different goals to mine will almost certainly be critical and, in a sense, I understand that response. If I didnโt know me I might be sceptical too,โ she said.
She said Maximus had given her โfairly free reinโ to bring about โimprovements to the service from a customer perspectiveโ. She added: โOf course there are considerable benefits to both myself and Maximus in this development. I will be giving the same 300 per cent passion and commitment to them that I have been giving to campaigning.โ
Mrs Marshโs former supporters lined up to condemn her.
Writing on her website, one said: โI am so sorry to say this but I feel betrayed so much I can only now call you Judas.โ
Another, Peter Farrington, said: โI have to add my name to the list sickened by this decision. So sickened I donโt even want to try to explain why I find this a betrayal of the trust so many of us placed in you in recent years, Sue.โ
Tony Cyphus branded Mrs Marsh a โsell-outโ, adding: โWhat happened to โIโm in so much pain I canโt workโ? I canโt wait to see how much of a hypocrite you turn out to be. You have just marked yourself for a life of hate.โ
on โ20-01-2015 07:20 PM
"Mrs Marsh said she had undergone an โenormous โ almost cosmic โ mindset shiftโ that had led her to accept a job as the companyโs โhead of customer experienceโ."
I wonder if that mindset shift was at the point when she saw the salary?
on โ20-01-2015 07:28 PM
@icyfroth wrote:
The amount someone gets on the dole would not be enough to just feed our family.... how do they survive?
Welfare was never meant to be a living. It was meant to be an assistance.
Sadly, they find a way. I've spent the best part of 30 years, working with chronically long-term unemployed and the disabled,, and there are so many blatant incidences of people deliberately sabotaging interviews, set up by their employment consultants, purposely angling to be fired, should they actually be accepted, or those on disability payments seeking out GP's who will support their ongoing injury/illness claims, it's scary!
Now don't get me wrong - I've also come across some fabulous people who would bend over backwards to get back into the workforce, and do pretty much whatever it took to do so, , but there is a contingent of sorry - bludgers, who just plain don't want to work, and firmly believe that the government should be supporting them.
More often than not, they'll blame everyone but themselves for their situation. True 'victim mentality'.