on 23-10-2013 08:52 PM
I am a agnostic and as far as climate change being real or man made, I will just say there is only so much you can pee in your pool before you have wrecked the joint.
In Australia the most high profile skeptics believe in god....yes they do not believe in climate change because it can not be 'proved', but they believe in a magical man in the sky who created the earth and the universe and who had a son who was killed and then rose from the grave..
Most of the Liberal frontbench, the family first party and Andrew Bolt question flat out deny climate change, yet are all believers in god.
People I know who proclaim it's garbage because there is no proof will attend church on Sunday or were married in a church.
Priministers, most of them, will use a bible when sworn in (julia didn't and there was an uproar).
Poeple wear crosses and believe a god listens to them when they speak and this is never questioned as much as climate change.
There have been claims by Mr Bolt and several deniers such as Lord Monckton that the likes of Flannery and Al Gore are making themsleves wealthy by decieving people with the idea of climate change.
The same thing is beinf done with Christianity in both our country and the united states, allot of wealthy churches out there using God to make them rich.
The current Priminister who does not believe in climate change as it cannot be proven, yet he believes in an entity that nobody can prove exists and a book that nobody can prove is the word of any god. That being a christian or Catholic god, Jesus christ and the bible.
We base our laws on a religion that has no proof of if it is real, we tell homosexuals they cannot marry based on a religion that worships an unproven god and reads a book that was written by someone we have no proof exists.
We have stopped funding 'cliamate scientists' as we once did (7 of the 10 Government appointed have been fired) because the government did not want to spend money on something that is ' unproven'.
yet we fund christianity with handouts to christian schools and tax bonuses for religions who worship gods that cannot be proven.
Why is it christianity requires no proof, while questioning the future of the earth is all up in the air?
Both subjects cost us money and effect our lives.
We truly are a nation of hypocrites if we can't question both in the same way when both are 'beliefs' that hold the same weight.
on 23-10-2013 08:58 PM
on 23-10-2013 09:03 PM
there's far more evidence of climate change than there is of a god. i for example know the climate has changed for the worse, but i have no idea if there is an entity or god ..but i don't for instance say 'there is no God' because i honestly don't know . skeptics should apply the same approach i think.
on 23-10-2013 09:05 PM
Ibis, where did you go?
on 23-10-2013 09:08 PM
i for example know the climate has changed for the worse
oh god
on 23-10-2013 09:23 PM
How would you categorise a person who does not believe that there is an all powerful deity who created the universe and alos does not believe the so called Global Warming/Climate Change/Climate Diversity is caused by an increase in CO2 and is man made?
on 23-10-2013 09:36 PM
on 23-10-2013 11:25 PM
How would you categorise a person who does not believe that there is an all powerful deity who created the universe and alos does not believe the so called Global Warming/Climate Change/Climate Diversity is caused by an increase in CO2 and is man made?
A bilby ?
on 24-10-2013 03:33 PM
you may want to do some research on Al Gore and his mates because they did not just make bucket fulls of cash but train loads, again that is a fact. its legal as well although i think Al Gore may be based in Nigeria
on 24-10-2013 03:44 PM
what is unclear about the parable of the good steward gavo ? i think you ought to revisit it for a moment.