If Labor goes, Gonski goes with us: Gillard

[poddster]

If Labor goes, Gonski goes with us: Gillard

Typical Labor/Union blackmail/standover tactics.

[monman12]

"Legislation was introduced into Parliament last year to begin the implementation process, although it lacked any significant detail on how the changes would be implemented or paid for."

A member of the Gonski panel: " It is caught up in election-year politics (just like here) - Liberal premiers have no incentive to help out a struggling Labor government and don't have the money anyhow. There have been inexplicable delays, the money has to come from somewhere, and the fragile consensus between the sectors has frayed."

Have you noticed that all these "pork barrel" inititives will have to be managed (funded) by  the next elected government? I wonder if Abbott has taken note of this breathtaking comment from Gillard  regarding funding:-

"Our nation spends twice that amount each year on tobacco. We spend twice that amount again on alcohol." ""We can afford school reform."

Amazing!

[just_me_karen]

Stay on topic mm 😄

you either care about education reform and improvements, or you don't. 

[just_me_karen]

Gentle bump lol

[just_me_karen]

Julia Gillard announced the reading blitz today, what a great idea 🙂 

[the_great_she_elephant]

The point of this thread is to highlight the typical attitude.

The statement is begging/threatening, "If you want education reform then you have to re-elect me"

JOOLYA!!! what makes you think that you are the olnl person who can introduce reform??

The Gonski recomendations can be put in place by any sitting government.

So, Poddy, can you C&P Abbott's response stating which recommendationst he plans to put in place?

[izabsmiling]

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/going-going-gonski-time-running-out-for-education-reform-20130219-2eped.html

Going, going, Gonski: time running out for education reform

DateFebruary 20, 2013
Julia Gillard could leave a permanent policy mark with a fairer state school system.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/going-going-gonski-time-running-out-for-education-reform-2013...

''The impact of student background on educational outcomes is stronger in Australia than in other OECD countries,'' the report said. ''The cost of this inequity is high; both for individuals who are failing to reach their potential and for the nation as a whole.'' Countries with the best performing school systems - such as Canada and Finland - minimise the gap between the achievements of their disadvantaged and advantaged children. In Australia, the gap is widening.

Inevitably, most new money would flow to government schools for the simple reason that most of our disadvantaged kids - 80 per cent - go there.

The Coalition doesn't see inequity as a big deal. Education spokesman Christopher Pyne insisted last year that ''you can have very bright children from low SES [socio-economic status] backgrounds who have every opportunity to get ahead''. To suggest otherwise was ''dramatising the situation''.

Gonski didn't dramatise anything - it just laid out the facts, and proposed a solution. So it's over to the struggling Julia Gillard. If she survives as leader, and if she can get this up - find the money through ''structural'' savings, as she puts it, and arm-wrestle the states - she'll have her legacy.

[lightningdance]

If teachers can''t teach children basic reading more money will not help.

The whole system is disgraceful,  Gillard treating it as a political threat is typical. They have had 6 years & they come up with they "need more money" I'm appalled.

Gillard can go & take gonski with her, she's a disgrace.

[just_me_karen]

Have you read the Gonski report, lightning? It's not about more money. 

[monman12]

JMK :'Stay on topic mm" 

JMK: "you either care about education reform and improvements, or you don't."

I would not take you to be an Orwell fan JMK: "If you hamper the war effort of one side you automatically help that of the other." However, G Bush certainly: "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."

JMK "Have you read the Gonski report, lightning? It's not about more money."
Actually JMK there is  a lot in the report apropos funding, and it is a major issue at the moment.

"The report says funding needs to be increased by about $5 billion per year across all schooling sectors.

It says one third of that funding should come from the Commonwealth; and how the additional cost is borne should be discussed and negotiated between all governments.

Wherever the funding increase comes from, the report is adamant it should go to the government sector,

The report says state and federal governments must work together to coordinate funding more effectively.

Government schools, special schools and disability loadings, in our opinion, should be fully funded

The body would have the final call on whether particular non-government schools are eligible for full public funding.

Funding arrangements for schools across Federal and State Governments are too complex and lack transparency.

The ‘traditional’ role of one set of government (state) funding public schools and the other (federal) mostly funding independent schools is divisive, the report says.

Many schools, particularly in the Government sector, lack appropriate capital expenditure."

"Prime Minister Julia Gillard has warned her government will make ''ambitious'' cuts to find money for a new school funding model."

"not about more money" ??

[lightningdance]

Thank you again monman for a fair & balanced post with lots of factual information.

As usual the demonization of anybody who does not agree with Gillard.

I read an interesting article on the Waynsel & Groosil effect that Labor participates in which has led to the toxic debate around politics today. 

Anybody of the right has to be demonised, hunted down & destroyed, as we all saw with the Northern development discussion papeer, even though it had many people talking about a vision for Australia we saw Labor, en masse, coming out to demonise the idea with ridiculous hysteria.