Is Home Schooling a Good Enough Reason

 for the family to be awarded Asylum. 


 


A US appeals court has denied asylum to a Christian family who fled Germany so they could home-school their children, ruling that immigration laws do not grant a safe haven to people everywhere who face restrictions that would be prohibited under the Constitution.


 


Many US home-school families and evangelical Christians have taken up the cause of Uwe and Hannelore Romeike, who faced fines and the threat of losing custody of their children because they refused to comply with Germany's compulsory school attendance law.


 


In 2008, the Romeikes moved from Germany to the US and applied for asylum. That request was initially granted by an immigration judge in 2010. But the Board of Immigration Appeals overturned that ruling, and the Romeikes appealed.


 


On Tuesday, a three-member panel of US 6th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the Romeikes do not meet the criteria for asylum.


 


"The question is not whether Germany's policy violates the American Constitution, whether it violates the parameters of an international treaty or whether Germany's law is a good idea. It is whether the Romeikes have established the prerequisites of an asylum claim - a well-founded fear of persecution on account of a protected ground," the court wrote. In this case, that protected ground is religious freedom.


 


The court found that the German government treats all truants the same, regardless of their reasons for not attending school.


 


The Home School Legal Defence Association represented the Romeikes in court. Mike Donnelly, its director of international relations, said the Romeikes planned to appeal.


 


"The court ignored the evidence that Germany targets people for religious or philosophical reasons," Donnelly said, referring to a 2003 German Supreme Court decision that found the compulsory attendance law served a legitimate government interest of counteracting the development of parallel societies.


 


The 6th Circuit considered this argument but dismissed it, stating, "Any compulsory-attendance law could be said to have this effect."


 


The US government said in court documents the Romeikes did not belong to any particular Christian denomination and described the parents' objections to the government-approved schools as vague.


 


For instance, Uwe Romeike claimed that the schools taught witchcraft based on a game played by classmates of his wife when she was in school "that involved pushing chairs and glasses around, and dangling a pendulum."

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No, it isn't imo but perhaps there is more to it?

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no, the children need to be taught more than bible verses.


having a close relationship to someone like that child (now an adult)makes me aware of this kind of hidden neglect/abuse

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no, the children need to be taught more than bible verses.


having a close relationship to someone like that child (now an adult)makes me aware of this kind of hidden neglect/abuse



 


 


I don't actually know what's involved in home schooling but isn't there a curriculum that needs to be followed?  Exams?  or is that different in the US?


 


 


as to the OP, no, i dont think home schooling is a good enough reason to seek asylum. 


 


 


 


 

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I'm not sure what you mean LL but I do think that perhaps there is more to this particular story.  Lots of people homeschool for a whole range of reasons, people from different backgrounds philosophies and belief systems.  Teaching a child Bible verses is not abuse nor is teaching a child religious humanism abuse.  If a family homeschool their children and are giving them a balanced education then they are probably doing a better job than a lot of schools are able to do.


 


It really depends on the family as to how balanced they are. I think what Germany denies is the right for families to chose how they will educate their children, they are locked into one system.  I don't agree with it.

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There is no set curriculum for a homeschooler in Australia but there are a set of guidelines that a family agree to and that includes covering all subject areas and keeping records.


 


It depends on which state you are in and I think thats the case with the US as well it varies from state to state,


 


In vic you tick some boxes and sign the form.  Years ago I sent in a 30 odd page document to my regional dept outlining all subjects, content that would be covered and strategies used.  they didn't know what to do with lol 😐 In the end approved me anyway coz they couldn't ensure a duty of care to my special needs girls.

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Sorry hope that made sense, doing too many things at once 🙂

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I'm not sure what you mean LL but I do think that perhaps there is more to this particular story.  Lots of people homeschool for a whole range of reasons, people from different backgrounds philosophies and belief systems.  Teaching a child Bible verses is not abuse nor is teaching a child religious humanism abuse.  If a family homeschool their children and are giving them a balanced education then they are probably doing a better job than a lot of schools are able to do.


 


It really depends on the family as to how balanced they are. I think what Germany denies is the right for families to chose how they will educate their children, they are locked into one system.  I don't agree with it.



 


i'm sorry about generalising, its always a mistake. the particular home-schooling method i have problems with is a particular christian one. having seen the books .. i was appalled at what some think sufficient for an education (which is what i should have said)


maths based on bible verses.. creationism masquerading as a science subject etc.


if they (the couple mentioned) actually moved to the states to access something so inadequate (and frankly other -worldly) they moved there to make a big mistake. if they'd moved for a better outcome,  that i could understand.

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i was appalled at what some think sufficient for an education (which is what i should have said) maths based on bible verses.. creationism masquerading as a science subject etc.


 


 


perhaps having mandatory public or approved private education as is the case in Germany, is not such a bad idea. 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 

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i was appalled at what some think sufficient for an education (which is what i should have said) maths based on bible verses.. creationism masquerading as a science subject etc.


 


 


perhaps having mandatory public or approved private education as is the case in Germany, is not such a bad idea. 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 



well the system here is definitely open to abuse, i know of one girl who was actually babysitting younger siblings instead (friend of DD)


another of the girls friends dobbed 🙂


 legislation is problematic  sometimes its  not the best approach (both sides of the political divide make this error 🙂 ) Some homeschooled kids do better outside the system, which of course depends on the person doing the job. its also not really a good idea to derail the efforts of people like bella so i think closer scrutiny is a better way. perform the task well and up to standard, no problems.

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