Is government control of the education system a desirable "reform"

[poddster]

The question is, should government influence our education systen?

When governmet says it wants the same opertunities for every child is it really saying that it wants uniformity in education , such as what is being taught and how it is being taught.?

Is it better to have diversity in education as to what and how kids are educated?

[cherry*135]

You answer my questions and I will answer yours, fair enough?

No, I don't even read all your posts so I don't know what the questions are.

[cherry*135]

No he is not. His "opinion" is backed by scores of recognized experts in the field.

You are speaking for the OP, so you can answer the questions he avoids.

[*crikey*mate*]

No, I don't even read all your posts so I don't know what the questions are.

And that is why you don't know what you are talking about. You are not interested in anyone's view unless it agrees with yours.

The Answers to all of the above questions can be found in this book - plus there is an extensive Bibliography included in this book which will lead you to further resources on the matter. Another Place to start would be to explore what Pierre Bourdieu has to say about the topic of the Education of our youth in the school system in general.

Perhaps you could be humble enough to learn SOMETHING from the experts in the field.

Australian Sociology: A Changing Society 3rd Edition (2011)

Go for Gold

[*crikey*mate*]

And whilst you may not agree with the Opening Poster's views about education, here is a list of well recognized and respected "experts" who do.

Bourdieu, P. (1991) Language and Symbolic Power, Cambridge: Polity.

Bowles, S., & Gintis, H. (1976) Schooling in Capitalist America, London: Routledge Kegan Paul.

Garvis, S. (2010). Week three: Just education [Powerpoint slides]. Unpublished manuscript, 1012EPS, Griffith University, Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia.

Holmes, D., Hughes, K., & Julian, R. (2011) Australian Sociology: A Changing Society (3nd ed.).  NSW, Australia: Pearson Education Australia.

Jopson, D. (2009, November 26). Talking ‘bout their generation comes last. The Brisbane Times. Retrieved from http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/action/printArticle?id=926079

 Kaye, J. (2009, June 30). School league tables must be stopped. The Sydney Morning Herald, p. 11. Retrieved from Australia/ New Zealand Reference Centre database.

Ludowyke, J. (2010 February 8). My School fails the test. The Age, p. 12. Retrieved from Australia/New Zealand Reference Centre database.

Marlin, M. (1990). The Visibility and Invisibility of Aboriginal Students in an Urban Classroom. The Australian Journal of Education, 34, 312 – 329.

Sadovnik, A.R. (2001) Theories in the Sociology of Education. In J.H. Ballantine, & J.Z. Spade, Schools and Society: A Sociological Approach to Education (pp15 – 34). Belmont, CA; London: Wadsworth/Thomson Learning.

Wadham, Pudsey, & Boyd, (2007) Culture and Education (pp 62 – 95). Frenchs Forrest, Sydney, NSW:Pearson Education Australia.

 Wadham, Pudsey, & Boyd, (2007) Culture and Education (pp 96 – 132). Frenchs Forrest, Sydney, NSW:Pearson Education Australia.

[*crikey*mate*]

I don't agree that it's good to leave it up to the community populace to decide what is needed in education.  Some would ban computers while others don't see the need for years 11 and 12.  More than one of my friends think year 12 is a waste of time because boys just need a job (any old job will do) and girls just have babies so why waste the money and effort to keep them at school.

Which part of the plan is there a one size fits all solution?

The first part that comes to mind is the part which dictates what a child is "allowed" to be taught and what school year level they are allowed to access based on their age rather than their ability.

[*crikey*mate*]

I was at the Supreme Court (Syd) on Friday. Should I have questioned the Chief Justice of NSW?

If you follow the socially accepted and legal protocols and disagreed with what was said, then yes. It's called an Appeal, or so I believe.....

I'm sure that you have at least heard of the movie "The Castle" if you have not seen it. Whilst I believe that the movie itself is fiction, the legal principles clearly display that one can in fact question authority, when done in an appropriate manner.

[*crikey*mate*]

Do you think they've sent out the search parties?

Clearly they have, and have also accomplished their task in rounding up their intended targets, as when presented with FACT supported and substantiated by well respected and recognized experts in the field, they seem to have disappeared.

[just_me_karen]

better than a sleeping pill.

[*crikey*mate*]

Well if substantiated FACTS bother you, then I guess that could be one reason why you believe that my education was of a higher standard than yours.

[just_me_karen]

Lol yes it worked.