Is it possible to be both religious and a feminist?

[the_bob_delusion]

Can you for example follow the teachings of the Koran or Bible and still believe in equal rights for women?

[bella_again]

In terms of the bible you have to look at the context, the culture, its intended purpose and rules of scripture interpretation.  It's not about picking and choosing its about looking at who the scripture was talking to, whether it applies  for today and whether it was addressing a particular situation at that time which I believe it was in that case.

You will find women who did many things in the bible including teaching. Or you could argue with this scripture 'There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.'

Therefore everyone is equal in the eyes of God and the argument is over.  Not sure about the Koran though?

[i-need-a-martini]

(this is a general reply Bella and not directed at you specifically).

Isn't it interesting that when it comes to the Bible, Christians feel they can pick and choose depending on the context, culture and interpretation.

But when it comes to the Koran, apparently we Christians don't believe Muslims can do the same.

A little one sided wouldn't you say?

[i-need-a-martini]

But in response to Bobs questions, fundamentally (with both books taken at face value) the answer is no.

If you believe you are a feminist, then you are effectively saying that much of what is written in the Bible is false.

A bit like you can only believe in evolution or Adam and Eve. You have to reject one to accept the other.

[bella_again]

 No not really,  I am not sure that last statement is true, Christians may not agree with the belief system of Muslims but that does not mean that every muslim is extreme or fundamentalist.  

It's easy for anyone of us to perceieve things a certian way because we are all driven by our own perception and bias often due to life experiences.

[the_bob_delusion]

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@bella_again wrote:

In terms of the bible you have to look at the context, the culture, its intended purpose and rules of scripture interpretation.  It's not about picking and choosing its about looking at who the scripture was talking to, whether it applies  for today and whether it was addressing a particular situation at that time which I believe it was in that case.

You will find women who did many things in the bible including teaching. Or you could argue with this scripture 'There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.'

Therefore everyone is equal in the eyes of God and the argument is over.  Not sure about the Koran though?

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OK, give me a context and culture and its intended purpose and rules of scripture interpretation where it's not OK for women to speak in church or where Slavery was acceptable. 

[bella_again]

No you research it yourself, you came here deliberately with a scripture completely out of context in order to stir up others. You are intelligent enough to go and actually research something you post? Or is this what it is always about with you, a fun way to bash anyone that believes in something you have little understanding of? Oh well each to their own whatever floats your boat. I've got better things to do with my time than entertain you.

[raptor_rebooted]

But in response to Bobs questions, fundamentally (with both books taken at face value) the answer is no.

are you saying there are no muslim women who

follow the koran and also believe and defend equal

rights for women ???

[raptor_rebooted]

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@**bob_is_good** wrote:

Can you for example follow the teachings of the Koran or Bible and still believe in equal rights for women?

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malala yousafzai is a devout muslim - 

does that not answer your question? 

are you deliberately ignoring this example?

[poddster]

Neither. I am neither religious or female  🙂

[the_bob_delusion]

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@poddster wrote:

Neither. I am neither religious or female  🙂

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You don't need to be a female to be a feminist.