on 05-10-2020 09:48 PM
Is mocking a good way to help educate people?
How do you get someone to "see the light"?
on 07-10-2020 03:51 AM
Mockery of another person's world view or perspective presupposes that the mocker believes his/her world view/perspective is better or wiser or possessing desirable qualities that the other's does not possess. Implicit is a sense of superiority.
Of course it may be the case that the person doing the mocking does have a better or wiser or more admirable world view. It may be a more accurate world view. Perhaps the converse is true.
There are some ideas and perspectives that I would probably consider qualitatively to be wacky... yet I'm wary about judgements that denigrate a perspective that cannot decisively be disproved by evidence.
Evidence on religious beliefs is probably impossible to find, apply, or even to conceive. Within the parameters of the natural world is an expanse with what I think may be competing physical laws... but it may be that they are intersecting, or functioning very differently depending upon the size of their sphere, or the presence or absence of matter impeding space, or the distance from other objects, or - oh well, a whole host of affecting things. But it would be illogical to apply such physical laws to anything supranatural - outside of the physical universe. If we postulate even the possibility of a boundary to the natural (and I think that the Second Law of Thermodynamics makes such a postulation inevitable), every presupposition concerning evidence becomes inexplicable... perhaps even nonsensical.
Speaking purely from a scientific stance, dismissing other people's religion with mockery is (in my view) lacking in logic.
Speaking purely from a stance of effective persuasion, mockery is a poor tool that (in my view) is more likely in many cases to reinforce other people's views than to change them.
Were I convinced of the superiority of my view and wished to bring others to a knowledge of their inferior notions, I hope I'd not follow a course of behaviour that would have the "inferior" others want to brain me with the nearest rolling pin. Mocking others can create a great deal of hurt, destroy relationships, cause lasting psychological or emotional damage, and ultimately fail entirely in the stated intention of creating enlightenment. I doubt that enlightenment of others would be my actual goal in such a case, though; mockery is a beer of self-satisfaction.
The more I know, the more I realise how thin is the blade with which we chop logic and separate water from water.
on 07-10-2020 03:07 PM
@the_bob_delusion wrote:Is mocking a good way to help educate people?
How do you get someone to "see the light"?
No, I don't think we should mock people's religion to their face. I think we should try to show empathy and understanding for those with the misfortune to suffer the effects of some of the more life-crippling delusions of severe mental illness.
on 07-10-2020 03:41 PM
I dont believe in God, I do think the bible was a good book to keep people in line.
But I see the world and the people who believe in this god or that God, then I see them do the most ungodly things.
Mother earth is my god and it is hard watching her be distroyed by religious wars and Greed.
You cant make people believe what you believe in, most religions are a form of brain washing
I dont try to change peoples minds about their religion.
If they are nice people and dont preach to me they are welcome in my house