Labor still delusional. Still under union & faction stranglehold

silverfaun
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The inward looking & head in the sand of Labor is only going to ensure they will be in Opposition for years.

They have not looked at the reasons of the election loss & failures at all. From the failures of Latham to Gillard & Rudd they have ensured they will in the wilderness for years & have shown they have learnt nothing.

 

To be mired in leadership contortions since adopting Rudds unworkable & highly questionable policy that does not allow the so called rank & file a voice at all is just another example of Labors mind boggling ineptitude & shows they are not fit to be taken as a credible oppostion.

 

All they have managed to do is cement the power of the unions & factions, promote the dysfunctional  apparatchiks to seats for no other reason than the grabbing of power to themselves, lost any insight & introspection & look like a bunch of fools trying to pass themselves off as an Opposition, anything to get back in the game.

 

The tired front bench of Shortens are the recycled failures of the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd mob of incompetents reborn. The frightening prospect of the dim witted Conroy in Defence is factions manipulations at their worst.

 

Leadership changes only aggravate Labor's malady: by Henry Ergas

 

LABOR'S leadership ballot was supposed to revitalise the party. Instead, it has revitalised the factions, leaving them firmly in control. Rather than learn from the past six years, Labor seems intent on repeating its mistakes.

 

 

The situation Labor faces is dire. From 1972 to 2013, the major parties' share of the primary vote for the House of Representatives declined from 96 per cent to less than 80 per cent. Over three-quarters of that decline was at Labor's expense.

A long run of disastrous leaders has contributed to that collapse. So it is scarcely surprising that Labor would amend its leadership rules. But the changes it has made seem more likely to worsen the problems than to resolve them.

 

Allowing members to vote for the party leader itself introduces new risks. Almost by definition, a party's members are unrepresentative of the electorate, and tend to be more passionately committed to its core beliefs than even the party's average electoral supporter.

With each member's vote unlikely to affect the outcome, and individual members having little at stake in the ballot, leadership votes become a chance to express an ideological stance within the party, with scant regard to the party's electoral prospects. As a result, instead of widening the party's appeal, the process may select the leader whose views best echo members' prejudices.

 

In theory, that risk should be smaller when the leader is selected by MPs. After all, the electoral process makes it likely MPs will be reasonably representative of their electorates, and hence somewhat more centrist than party members.

 

At the same time, MPs have the most to gain from the party being in power, giving them a strong incentive to choose leaders who can speak to a broad audience. And MPs will know more about the individual candidates, as they deal with them on a daily basis.

Yet the Latham, Rudd and Gillard disasters show that hardly guarantees wise choices. Rather, the reality is that no selection process entirely avoids mistakes.

 

Whether those mistakes can be corrected is therefore at least as important as the procedures by which a leader is chosen.

Unfortunately, the changes Labor has made to its rules impose unprecedented restrictions on leadership challenges. Even before those changes, the requirement that 30 per cent of caucus agree before a leadership spill could be called was far higher than the current 20 per cent threshold in Britain's Labour Party.

 

Now, 75 per cent of caucus will need to sign a petition to force a challenge to a serving prime minister and 60 per cent to an opposition leader.

Those hurdles will have a dramatic impact on the extent to which incumbent leaders face the threat of dismissal. Inevitably, leaders enjoy a degree of natural protection, as their ability to punish those who seek to move against them make attempted ejections highly risky. Even British Labour's low thresholds, therefore, proved sufficient to shield Tony Blair and then Gordon Brown from challenge, despite their losing the confidence of the party room.

 

With the ALP's new thresholds, ejecting an incumbent leader will be virtually impossible. Indeed, challenges will only have any hope of success if they are orchestrated by the factions.

 

As well as allowing dysfunctional leadership to persist, that will make the factions even more important, both to leaders, who can rest secure so long as they enjoy their support, and to individual MPs, who will count for nothing when they act alone.

The high threshold required to nominate as a candidate in a leadership vote will accentuate that effect, as the factions will be the gatekeepers to securing endorsements and the key communications channel to members.

Instead of ensuring greater internal democracy, Labor's changes will therefore entrench its power brokers. And those powerbrokers are increasingly based in, and dependent on, the unions.

 

Historically, that link was a source of strength, as the unions provided the training ground for the party's cadres. Moreover, when the unions had deep roots in the community, rising through the ranks itself acted as a selection mechanism, weeding out at least some of the worst incompetents.

But, with barely 20 per cent of full-time employees now unionised, the unions primarily serve their officials rather than the other way around.

Nor is that on a small scale. In 1975, when the unions had nearly three million members, they employed barely 2000 officials. Now, with only 1.8 million members, they employ more than 4000, a ratio of officials to members five times that in Britain. And the composition of that employment has changed dramatically.

 

In the early 1970s, union officials were overwhelmingly drawn from their members' ranks. In contrast, today's officials are twice as likely as their members to be university educated, with an even greater gap in the unions whose members are in the private sector.

Far from producing battle-hardened leaders, all that system generates is power-hungry apparatchiks whose prime loyalty is to the faction that sponsored their career.

 

No wonder Labor has proven incapable of confronting the root causes of its failure. Those causes do not lie in disunity; rather, disunity is the symptom of a party in which ideas count for nothing and power for everything. Yet, however deadly the battle over the spoils, there was no dissent within Labor on the policies that led to its downfall.

Stretching from the Fair Work Act to the carbon and mining taxes, those policies, enthusiastically endorsed by the unions, veered the party to the Left just as the electorate was moving to the Right. Yet Labor refused, and still refuses, to recognise the electoral cost that was certain to inflict.

 

John F. Kennedy famously referred to himself as an idealist shorn of illusions; Labor is now little more than a party of illusionists shorn of ideals.

 

That is a malady no leadership selection mechanism can cure; to think otherwise is merely to add one more delusion to Labor's never-ending pile.

 

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Aside from being an article that says almost absolutely NOTHING, the only section worth commenting on is this:

 

The situation Labor faces is dire. From 1972 to 2013, the major parties' share of the primary vote for the House of Representatives declined from 96 per cent to less than 80 per cent. Over three-quarters of that decline was at Labor's expense.

 

What the author fails to mention is that, whilst Labors primary might indeed be sliding (as more and more political parties enter the arena) , they still get MORE votes than the Liberal Party. EVERY. TIME.

 

Even in the so called landslide election such as the 1996 Howard win, Labor still gets more primary votes than the Liberal Party. As occurred this election too.

 

Whilst the Liberal Party win on the back of National Party preferences, they have their own 'dire' situtaion. Cause no party is losing it's votes faster than any other than the Nationals. So Liberal will soon be faced with the consequences of few preferences from the Party that gets them over the line every time they win.

 

So if the author intended to bring up that statistic to prove a point about Labors popularity, he's a bit of a twit.

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What twaddle, still can't accept that Labor is in a position that could see them become irrelevent as a political force simply because they will not face up to serious reform & break the stranglehold of the factions & Unions.

 

Whilst ever they ignore the gorillia in the room they are doomed to keep sliding towards a minority party.

 

As for the COALITION that is what COLAITIONS are designed to do, pick up the other voters, the original COUNTRY PARTY voters because Labor has always IGNORED the bush in preference for the inner city elites & Greens.

 

This is a very good article, insightful but obviously not what the left want to read or even think about! just like what the Labor party are doing at this very moment.

 

They are too busy focussing on TP's suits, her "so called intelligence & the fact that she should become leader when Shorten shorts out.  Nothing about her constant "verballing"  which she passes off for " truthful comment".  They have learnt absolutely NOTHING, wonder when they will restart the "gender war" again? when nothing else seems to be working for them probably.

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@silverfaun wrote:

 

 

As for the COALITION that is what COLAITIONS are designed to do, pick up the other voters, the original COUNTRY PARTY voters because Labor has always IGNORED the bush in preference for the inner city elites & Greens.

 

 


Read up your history. The Coalition was formed simply because the Country/Nationals could see that their end was in sight. After 2 decades of sliding towards osbcurity, their only chance of keeping their parliamentary foot in the door was to accept the terms of the 2008 merger with the Liberal Party.

 

For the Liberals, it is their own chance of holding office with each election. For the Nationals, it keeps them alive for a little while longer. Anything for power, hey?

 

At least Labor Party didn't compromise their values for a few extra seats by forming a Coalition with the Democrats when they started on their downwards trajectory.

 

BTW, the Nationals exist because ALL political parties ignore/d farmers and graziers. 

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And what factions and union strongholds? Upir article (and your subsequence defence) fails to highlight this.

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@silverfaun wrote:

 Labor is in a position that could see them become irrelevent as a political force simply because they will not face up to serious reform & break the stranglehold of the factions & Unions.

 

Whilst ever they ignore the gorillia in the room they are doomed to keep sliding towards a minority party.

 



I guess that is why at theMiranda  by-election the Labor candidate won, up by 26%?

 

http://www.abc.net.au/elections/nsw/2013/miranda/result.htm

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