on 27-03-2014 11:12 AM
Labor to cut its union ties Rats deserting a sinking ship before the royal commission into union corruption.... Little Billy wants to keep his head down as he has his dirty finger prints over many things that will be investigated.
LABOR leader Bill Shorten is believed to be preparing to further cut Labor ties to the union movement by scrapping rules that restrict ALP membership to those who belong to a union.
The move, according to senior ALP sources, would be the most significant symbolic reform to the ALP in decades and send a message to the community that Labor was no longer run by unions. (Trying to pull the wool over the peoples eyes this move thats all it is)
The Labor leader is expected to make an announcement on further reforms to ALP structures within weeks in an attempt to limit damage to Labor ahead of the government’s royal commission into the union movement. (Rats deserting a sinking ship)
Sources close to Mr Shorten, a union leader before he entered parliament, revealed he had privately decided to make the symbolic break with the industrial base for the good of the party. He would have to take the reforms to the party’s next national conference, which is not until 2015.
During a Press Club speech yesterday, Mr Shorten hinted at the reforms, claiming the ALP needed to broaden its appeal. He wants to more than double the ALP’s membership from 45,000 to 100,000.
“When it comes to modernising our relationship with the unions, we have to. Let there be no one under any doubt. I think we have to,” Mr Shorten said yesterday.
“We have to appeal to people who might think they don’t want to be in a union but they’d like to be involved with the Labor Party.”
While many ALP branches do not strictly enforce the rule that requires members to be in a union, the fact it remains is regarded as a powerful symbol of Labor’s union ties.
Senior Labor sources agreed that removing the rule would be a “powerful symbolic gesture that Labor is interested in its future”. (Yes a con and pulling the wool over peoples eyes)
“It’s a starting point,” a senior federal Labor source said.
“It would send an appropriate message to the community that the Labor Party is not run by the trade union movement.” (is is and always will be)
Senior Labor sources confirmed Mr Shorten had told them he was committed to the reform, despite the likelihood of a dangerous backlash from unions and left wing elements of the ALP.
It is expected he would get the backing of the powerful NSW right faction of the party, which has led the way in reforming and democratising the party since the corruption scandals that have rocked the NSW branch.
NSW Labor will be the first to have direct-elected delegates to the party’s national conference and has always maintained 100 per cent rank and file preselections.
But the move to broaden the membership of the branches is regarded as vital to being more representative of the community and bringing Labor back to the middle political ground
on 27-03-2014 03:31 PM
@lakeland27 wrote:odd. as a member of no union and the ALP simultaneously i find the article inaccurate.
It is inaccurate and I am still wondering where it came from.
on 27-03-2014 03:38 PM
the first result comes from here http://www.news.com.au/national/its-a-starting-point-labor-to-cut-its-union-ties/story-fncynjr2-1226... notoriously unreliable misinformation site.
the second result is this thread
accuracy isn't a consideration for News readers.
on 27-03-2014 03:39 PM
@lakeland27 wrote:the first result comes from here http://www.news.com.au/national/its-a-starting-point-labor-to-cut-its-union-ties/story-fncynjr2-1226... notoriously unreliable misinformation site.
the second result is this thread
accuracy isn't a consideration for News readers.
thanks.
on 28-03-2014 12:10 AM
on 28-03-2014 12:21 AM
"accuracy isn't a consideration for News readers." or a few of the pink gang I have observed!
on 28-03-2014 09:58 AM
just remember not to confuse opinion with fact . for example . privatisisation is good if you do well out of it . that makes it good for you .. not good in a community sense
on 28-03-2014 10:27 AM
Can you imagine that coercion that has been used historically and presently to inveigle people into unions if they wanted to join the labor party.
If you want to involve yourself in left wing politics you HAD TO JOIN A UNION.
We were all witness to the money put on the table to care workers and child care workers that if you join the labor party we'll give you this raise. This money was purely a union drive for more members.
Labor has been a closed union shop forever. How are they going to wean them selves off the blood money unions have gouged out of people since the Labor party was invented.
So many commentators were totally gobsmacked that they didn't know this, appalled and shocked that this was the criteria to join the Labor party.
Labor and the unions are one, the one entity, they cannot be divided ever.
Shorten can pay lip service to the public whilst this RC is ongoing but he and all Labor politicians are there at the behest of the unions no one else.
Wake up people, smell the corruption and blackmail that is the heart of Labor.
on 28-03-2014 11:38 AM
well they ought to be gobsmacked , because as i said it isn't true. many ALP members are not union members.
the story is (mostly) false . untrue.. incorrect. made up by some ignorant zealot posing as a journalist.
on 28-03-2014 11:45 AM
on 28-03-2014 03:28 PM
"well they ought to be gobsmacked , because as i said it isn't true. many ALP members are not union members.
the story is (mostly) false . untrue.. incorrect. made up by some ignorant zealot posing as a journalist."
In a hurry LL , so quickly found the below , which could have changed recently.
Any person may apply for individual membership of the ACT Branch of the ALP if they are:
a financial member of a union covering their occupation, trade or profession (if they are eligible to join a union, or have made all attempts to encourage their employees to join a trade union and the applicant observes union conditions if they are an employer)
not a member of any other political party or any organisation proscribed by ACT Branch Conference, unless the organisation is a fellow party of the Socialist International.
Or 2013:
The Labor leader in the NSW upper house, Luke Foley, himself a former state union secretary, has joined calls from federal minister Joel Fitzgibbon to scrap the requirement that people must be trade union members before they can be Labor Party members.
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