@***super_nova*** wrote:
@johcaschro wrote:
She was horrified by their reaction. "What exactly do you want?" one of the students shouted. "That's what women can expect if they walk around there at night!"
So, one kid shouted and that is proof or you how evil Islam is that is has to be banned? I can asure you, many people in our society would agree, and just because they do not shout it, does not mean that they do not think it. I bet many preachers and priests would agree. They just know better than to say it. But don;t you think it's weird that our society conditions girls from the earliest age to be sexy, and they are packaged as sex objects, and then men are told they are not allowed to consider them sex object?
Fight for women's rights is over 100 years old and not only we have a long way to go, but sometimes I think we are going backwards. For many young women being called "feminist" is an insult. Attitude of men towards women is often pretty horrid, and reflected in the DV numbers here in Australia. The behaviour of Mitchell Pearce and other sportsmen illustrates that well.
Do you really think that women like Malala Yousafzai are forced to cover their hair? Actually, Muslim countries have much better record of women in power than Australia, and if you look at the right passages in Koran that women are given the right to be involved in running their countries. Just look what we did to Julia Gillard.
So, you consider Hijab symbol of oppression, and you cannot see that some women who decided to wear it do not agree with you. Islam has to be reformed by Muslims themselves, it cannot be reformed by outsiders.
Our society is a capitalist one. people make money by encouraging "fashions" and then selling fasionable clothing, perfumes, eye-liners, magazines, etc.
Malala Yousafzai was shot in the face by Islamic fundamentalists because she offended them by claiming her right to pursue an education.
I mean, come on, she's only a woman, what does she need with an education anyway?
Her hijab offered no protection to that bullet.
The hijab that she was indeed compelled to wear.
That cry of "What exactly do you want?" is not the cry of one singular student. it is the cry of a whole lot of people who follow a creed which holds that women are the natural subjects of men and should conduct themselves accordingly.
You know this and for you to claim it is only one person's cry is to be disingenuous.
Women who choose to wear hijab do so out of their agreement and internalisation of the islamic doctrine that by their display of a little hair, a little flash of flesh, a sparkling smile, that they are responsible for inflaming an uncontrollable passion in the observant men and that therefore it's no fault of the men if they cannot control themselves and it gives them permission to grope, harrass and even rape women who so wantonly proke them. (see Cologne, new years eve 20016)
It is a fault of the men. it is a fault in what they are being taught. it is a fault of Islam that it teaches women to cover up because it's the womens' fault.
It's NOT the women's fault. it's the men's fault. it's the religion's fault for teaching them such horrible ideas.
The hijab is a marker of an attitude. That attitude is that it's the women who are responsible for how men act.
The men shirk their responsibility to behave like decent and civilised individuals because they are taught some very dodgy lessons from their very birth.
Let's have no "political correctness" touchy-feely, we're so-understanding-of-cultural-difference here
Let's call a spade a spade.
Hijab is an oppressive rag, symbolising the subjection of women. It doesn't matter if it's made of silk and adorned with gems; it stands for something; it signifies something.
Understand what it signifies. understand what it means. Why any Western woman would defend the wearing of such a badge of oppression is beyond my ken.
