Malevolent Shysters Are Damaging Australia

WHAT self-serving, malevolent shysters - deliberately damaging Australia and blaming Tony Abbott for it. Who are these hypocrites who betray Australia, peddle a traitor's leaks and demand we surrender to Indonesia, just to destroy a Prime Minister they hate?

 

But Scott's hypocrisy is trumped by the Greens'. In 1999, Greens leader Bob Brown was demanding an "international peacekeeping force" invade Indonesia, if that's what it took to free East Timor.

But now? These same Greens are shocked - shocked - that we tapped the phones of Indonesian leaders and they cry crocodile tears at "the damage that the unregulated surveillance state is doing to our diplomatic relationships".

 

Are these people mad? Have they forgotten that Indonesia, today a democracy under a friendly ex-general, was only recently less benign and tomorrow might be again?

 

Don't they realise the phonetapping in 2009 occurred only a month after yet another Islamist bombing, this one killing three Australians in Jakarta, when Australia needed to know how serious Indonesia was in tackling extremists?

 

Of course, the Greens are simply adolescents in permanent revolt against Father. They are at heart irresponsible, not to be trusted with real power.

 

But what excuse is there for Labor leader Bill Shorten? On Tuesday he sided with the Greens, Fairfax journalists and extremist Islamist group Hizb ut Tahrir in demanding Abbott apologise to Indonesia.

 

"I believe, for instance, that the example of the United States in the way that it handled a similar issue with Germany provides the opportunity for us to consider the same course of action," he told Parliament.

 

Shorten was referring to President Barack Obama's response to another Snowden leak, which revealed the US had monitored the calls of German Chancellor Angela Merkel. Obama - foolishly - rang Merkel to apologise and, his spokesman said, "assured the Chancellor that the US is not monitoring and will not monitor the communications of Chancellor Merkel".

 

BUT Indonesia is not Germany. And, if Abbott gives such a guarantee to Indonesia, he'll be under pressure to give the same to the leaders of Cambodia, Vietnam, Malaysia and whoever else demands one. And if the next Snowden leak shows us spying on Chinese leaders, what does Abbott do next?

 

The Fairfax media, mad with Abbott hate, is doing its best to help, seeming at times to blame Abbott for spying actually done under the Rudd government.

Worse, Fairfax writers are virtually united in insisting Abbott give Indonesia the apology we cannot afford. Indeed, most are on Indonesia's side. Don't doubt that. Hatred of Abbott and his signature boats policy is driving much of this hysterical media coverage and **bleep** the national interest.

 

Hear it from Jack Waterford, of the Fairfax Canberra Times: "There are many people, including me, who want to see our shameful policies fail."

 

Hear it also from Richard Ackland, of the Fairfax Sydney Morning Herald, suggesting the Indonesian President sends an armada to topple Abbott: "Best way for SBY to respond to spying is to open the spigot on refugees. Put 50,000 on boats, point them at Oz. Goodbye Abbott."

The hypocrites. The scoundrels. And is it too much to say they've sold out their country?

 

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Omg who needs enemies with people like these in our own ranks?

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Andrew Bolt, Daily Telegraph

 

Nothing to add apart from that.

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I hope you mean Omg who needs enemies with people like these Bolt in our own ranks?

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Voltaire: “Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities, Can Make You Commit Atrocities” .
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@***super_nova*** wrote:

I hope you mean Omg who needs enemies with people like these Bolt in our own ranks?


I always like to see both sides of an argument

 

And I'm not referring to Bolt, I'm referring to the points I've bolded.

 

I have to go be back later.

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Abbott was talking down the Australian economy-ably assisted by Joe Hockey & co-since the day he was elected opposition leader.Is he a malevolent shyster too?
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As I mentioned in another post, the hide of the telegraph is ridiculous.

 

They can ruin a mans life by running a hole-filled story given to them by a revenge filled ex lover but the ABC isn't allowed to run a newsworthy report that was about to go public via a whistelblower.

 

Yep - it's all the ABCs fault. Cause the ABC 'hate' Abbott. And the ABC is 'hysterical'. Cause the ABC won't let him in their group. Aww... And they are starting rumours about him. Awww...

 

And Bolt thinks the ABC is "hypocritical."?

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So the press should be hiding information from the people?

 

Isn't that what Juliars press laws were suppose to do?

 

or was that to stop already known info about her Union days being hoarded  and brought up to try and ruin her career as PM?

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@icyfroth wrote:

And I'm not referring to Bolt, I'm referring to the points I've bolded.



You are referring to what Bolt selectively written, his spin on the situation. 

 

The point being that it is NOT about the spying, it is about LNP treating Indonesia with total contempt from before they even won government.  Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono had enough and turned the tables.  Of-course, we cannot promise that we will never spy again, but we need to say something soothing.  We need somebody with diplomatic credentials who understands Asian politics.  And TA ain't IT.

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I have to admit, I too tend to automatically dismiss content from certain sources.....like....phonytonyabbott.com

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

@icyfroth wrote:

And I'm not referring to Bolt, I'm referring to the points I've bolded.



You are referring to what Bolt selectively written, his spin on the situation. 

 

The point being that it is NOT about the spying, it is about LNP treating Indonesia with total contempt from before they even won government.  Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono had enough and turned the tables.  Of-course, we cannot promise that we will never spy again, but we need to say something soothing.  We need somebody with diplomatic credentials who understands Asian politics.  And TA ain't IT.


"I want to express here in this chamber my deep and sincere regret about the embarrassment to the president and to Indonesia that's been caused by recent media reporting," he said.

 

Mr Abbott said he would respond "swiftly, full and courteously" to a written request for an explanation.

 

No doubt mindful of the fact the phone tapping program was in place during Labor's time in office, Opposition Leader Bill Shorten lent his support to the Government.

 

"This is indeed a 'Team Australia' moment. We need to walk this road together," he said yesterday.

 

Opposition foreign affairs spokeswoman Tanya Plibersek supported the bipartisan approach when she fronted reporters this morning.

"We are absolutely committed to working with the Government to restoring good relations with Indonesia," she said.

 

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Indeed Mr Abbott needs to make President Yudhoyono happy. Even thought it's not his mess, he needs to clean it up. We can't have bad relations with Indonesia. On the other hand, Indonesia needs to honor it's agreements with us and not seize on an incident from four years ago by a different Government to justify it's withdrawal of support (such as it was) on the problem of people smuggling out of their country. 

 

We certainly don't need an enemy press within attacking the Prime Minister and doing their best to bring about his downfall.

 

As Bill Shorten said: "This is indeed a 'Team Australia' moment. We need to walk this road together">

 

I'm beginning to like thim.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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